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08-31-2019, 06:21 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Rivets?
Hey Everyone,
I just got a voicemail asking questions about rivets. The message was unintelligible. All i understood was "skoolie" and "rivets".
I am not sure who messaged me but I will say that questions are better answered in the open forums rather than PM or voicemail.
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08-31-2019, 06:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Hey Everyone,
I just got a voicemail asking questions about rivets. The message was unintelligible. All i understood was "skoolie" and "rivets".
I am not sure who messaged me but I will say that questions are better answered in the open forums rather than PM or voicemail.
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How does anybody here know your phone number?
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08-31-2019, 06:31 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Pretty sure he's posted it somewhere, but it could also be a stalker. Steve do you have a stalker?
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08-31-2019, 07:31 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Huntington Beach CA.
Posts: 939
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: T/C 2000 28 foot Handy Bus
Engine: Cummins 5.9 Mechanical
Rated Cap: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Hey Everyone,
I just got a voicemail asking questions about rivets. The message was unintelligible. All i understood was "skoolie" and "rivets".
I am not sure who messaged me but I will say that questions are better answered in the open forums rather than PM or voicemail.
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Not me 
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09-01-2019, 03:17 AM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Maybe ithe voicemail was supposed to be for you, Rivetman1
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09-01-2019, 05:22 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I think I can solve the mystery.
Its a Belgian man. His name is Wim. I've been busy but he called me frantically about rivets in the middle of my storm prepping.
He's really nice but stressed about grip range, rivet length, etc.
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09-01-2019, 08:23 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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That just made the story even more weird
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09-01-2019, 12:32 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Pretty sure he's posted it somewhere, but it could also be a stalker. Steve do you have a stalker?
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Several 
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09-01-2019, 12:35 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
How does anybody here know your phone number?
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I have exchanged phone calls with a number of members here as well as skoolie fans outside of the forum.
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09-01-2019, 12:38 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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I posted a link and contact info for the folks I bought my rivets from in my build thread.
The gent I spoke with was very knowledgeable and even knew a fair bit about buses. He helped me with selection of proper size, style and grip range.
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09-01-2019, 03:06 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,987
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I think I can solve the mystery.
Its a Belgian man. His name is Wim. I've been busy but he called me frantically about rivets in the middle of my storm prepping.
He's really nice but stressed about grip range, rivet length, etc.
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hope you fair well charlie i am in prep mode also cause it looks like it gonna make a hard right and head my way.
I just got my house back together from last september
good luck to yall ECCB
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09-01-2019, 07:53 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I have exchanged phone calls with a number of members here as well as skoolie fans outside of the forum.
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IIRC I gave it to him since his bus was out there in Oregon when he got it.
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09-01-2019, 08:22 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Houston
Posts: 336
Year: 2003
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 30,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I think I can solve the mystery.
Its a Belgian man. His name is Wim. I've been busy but he called me frantically about rivets in the middle of my storm prepping.
He's really nice but stressed about grip range, rivet length, etc.
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Cb good luck man with the storm man ! It lookin Gnarly!
I have a question about rivets !
International bus 2002
I’m drilling them out with a number 8 or 10 bit.
Not sure I get them from work. But usually what size should I go with or what’s usually manufacture sized rivets.
I want to to order some solid pop rivets ... or the self closing ones and also some buck rivets .
I need a bit too.
So say I’m going through 2 pieces of 14 gauge hat channel.
And old 16 garage sheet and my new 16 gauge sheet?
What grip range shall I need ?
If I bored a hole out too big should I go with 5/16 instead of 1/4 ... I think that’s standered ?
I need to make a order here pretty soon
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09-01-2019, 09:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BusT
Cb good luck man with the storm man ! It lookin Gnarly!
I have a question about rivets !
International bus 2002
I’m drilling them out with a number 8 or 10 bit.
Not sure I get them from work. But usually what size should I go with or what’s usually manufacture sized rivets.
I want to to order some solid pop rivets ... or the self closing ones and also some buck rivets .
I need a bit too.
So say I’m going through 2 pieces of 14 gauge hat channel.
And old 16 garage sheet and my new 16 gauge sheet?
What grip range shall I need ?
If I bored a hole out too big should I go with 5/16 instead of 1/4 ... I think that’s standered ?
I need to make a order here pretty soon
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Instead of having 2 different size rivets, use a backer washer or the head off another rivet on the back side,
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09-01-2019, 09:51 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BusT
Cb good luck man with the storm man ! It lookin Gnarly!
I have a question about rivets !
International bus 2002
I’m drilling them out with a number 8 or 10 bit.
Not sure I get them from work. But usually what size should I go with or what’s usually manufacture sized rivets.
I want to to order some solid pop rivets ... or the self closing ones and also some buck rivets .
I need a bit too.
So say I’m going through 2 pieces of 14 gauge hat channel.
And old 16 garage sheet and my new 16 gauge sheet?
What grip range shall I need ?
If I bored a hole out too big should I go with 5/16 instead of 1/4 ... I think that’s standered ?
I need to make a order here pretty soon
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see post #8...
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09-11-2019, 10:58 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BusT
Cb good luck man with the storm man ! It lookin Gnarly!
I have a question about rivets !
International bus 2002
I’m drilling them out with a number 8 or 10 bit.
Not sure I get them from work. But usually what size should I go with or what’s usually manufacture sized rivets.
I want to to order some solid pop rivets ... or the self closing ones and also some buck rivets .
I need a bit too.
So say I’m going through 2 pieces of 14 gauge hat channel.
And old 16 garage sheet and my new 16 gauge sheet?
What grip range shall I need ?
If I bored a hole out too big should I go with 5/16 instead of 1/4 ... I think that’s standered ?
I need to make a order here pretty soon
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Re 'POP' Rivets on a skoolie
Specified 2 thicknesses of each Gauge 14 and 15 sheet steel.
14 gauge = 0.078125" x 2 = 0.15625"
16 gauge = 0.0625" x 2 = 0.125"
Total thickness = 0.28125" = 9/32"
Grip Range needs to include the above figure for example, a 3/16 rivet with a 1/4 to 3/8 and have a rivet length around 1/2". The drill size will be a number 11 and will probably specified by the rivet supplier
Material of the rivet and it's mandrel should both be steel (not stainless steel) and if exposed to weather should have a closed end. Different manufacturers have different names for closed end rivets. Two names I've come across are 'domed' and 'protruding head'. Buyer beware.
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09-11-2019, 11:13 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boilerguy666
Re 'POP' Rivets on a skoolie
Specified 2 thicknesses of each Gauge 14 and 15 sheet steel.
14 gauge = 0.078125" x 2 = 0.15625"
16 gauge = 0.0625" x 2 = 0.125"
Total thickness = 0.28125" = 9/32"
Grip Range needs to include the above figure for example, a 3/16 rivet with a 1/4 to 3/8 and have a rivet length around 1/2". The drill size will be a number 11 and will probably specified by the rivet supplier
Material of the rivet and it's mandrel should both be steel (not stainless steel) and if exposed to weather should have a closed end. Different manufacturers have different names for closed end rivets. Two names I've come across are 'domed' and 'protruding head'. Buyer beware.
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I bought a bunch of 1/4" rivets and the manufacturer specified F bits which are nominally 0.257". The rivets turned out to measure about 0.26", rendering my package of F bits kind of useless.
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09-12-2019, 01:20 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
I bought a bunch of 1/4" rivets and the manufacturer specified F bits which are nominally 0.257". The rivets turned out to measure about 0.26", rendering my package of F bits kind of useless.
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Sounds like they really F'd it up!
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09-12-2019, 01:22 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
I bought a bunch of 1/4" rivets and the manufacturer specified F bits which are nominally 0.257". The rivets turned out to measure about 0.26", rendering my package of F bits kind of useless.
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On the bright side, you now have some nice new shiny F bits. 
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