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04-14-2017, 07:39 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: WI
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Rust law
Just checked out a bus and the seller said that one of the reasons for selling was that there was some surface rust on the back, and it's against the law for a school to operate a bus with visible rust. Instead of fixing it the district upgraded, so they're selling. Anyone ever heard this?
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04-14-2017, 07:40 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
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Nope!!!!!!!!!!
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04-14-2017, 07:46 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
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Not here either, but I'm pretty sure I met a guy that bs'ed like that once.
It makes me wonder if the Rust Law is really real. It's just absurd enough to be real.
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Nobody's Business
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04-15-2017, 06:34 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Montana
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Year: 2000
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I have never seen that as a "Law" - but I do know that some school districts (school boards) will not allow their students to be driven in an "old" bus - and for some, rust means the bus is old - so they sell them and get new ones.
It is cheaper to repair the bus - but some insist on having the newest buses. Finding a bus from a small wealthy district may be a good idea, I would think.
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Originally Posted by simonsteve
Just checked out a bus and the seller said that one of the reasons for selling was that there was some surface rust on the back, and it's against the law for a school to operate a bus with visible rust. Instead of fixing it the district upgraded, so they're selling. Anyone ever heard this?
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04-15-2017, 08:58 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bemidji MN
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Year: 1998
Coachwork: Carpenter Body
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
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My bus had a lot of surface rust and was still in use up to about six months before I bought it. Once, I started digging into the interior and exposing the exterior body I found nothing but rust. Not just the back door and a few rivets but, the rub rails were barely attached, the seams were shot and someone put the drivers side rub rails on upside down trapping the water rather than forcing it up and over the rails. I ended up ripping off the entire body and replacing it from the drivers cab area all the way back. I have never heard of a rust law or requirement. I see plenty of active buses around here with patches of rust or eaten away bottoms of rear escape doors.
It sounds to me that the guy was lying and that would make me suspicious of the bus as well as the guy.
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04-15-2017, 09:11 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
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may or may not be a law, but every year a bus sure has to pass a DOT safety inspection. if it failed due to rust, its probably bordering on unsafe in some inspector's eyes. or it may have failed for a completely different reason and the guy just said "rust". they retire them when they are to expensive to fix.
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04-15-2017, 11:30 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
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Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
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A. If that was really a "Law"...there would be no school buses on the road.
B. "Visible Rust" is not what kills people. It's the stuff you don't see.
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04-15-2017, 11:34 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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RX meds and cell phones are what REALLY kill.
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04-15-2017, 11:41 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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We have no DOT inspections of privately owned busses in Oregon.
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04-15-2017, 12:02 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Grand Junction CO
Posts: 19
Year: 1986
Engine: 8.2L Detroit turbo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
RX meds and cell phones are what REALLY kill.
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Here here!!!
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04-15-2017, 12:04 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Grand Junction CO
Posts: 19
Year: 1986
Engine: 8.2L Detroit turbo
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Never herd of rust law. But I'm from Idaho and we don't have to think bout or prepare for rust as much
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04-15-2017, 12:12 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FinchInspired
Never herd of rust law. But I'm from Idaho and we don't have to think bout or prepare for rust as much
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NIce buses come from CO, ID, and that area.
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04-15-2017, 12:43 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Grand Junction CO
Posts: 19
Year: 1986
Engine: 8.2L Detroit turbo
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That's nice to know, I lucked out with our bus big time! No rust.
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04-15-2017, 12:57 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
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Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I'm not finding any problems with Oregon buses having rust either. Not even the older buses are that rusty unless they've been abused and ignored.
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04-15-2017, 01:55 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Grand Junction CO
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Year: 1986
Engine: 8.2L Detroit turbo
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I've been looking for a second bus lately, couldn't find any in Idaho. They must export or something
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04-15-2017, 01:57 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Grand Junction CO
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Year: 1986
Engine: 8.2L Detroit turbo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FinchInspired
I've been looking for a second bus lately, couldn't find any in Idaho. They must export or something
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Accidentally posted that.... Probably for this rust reason, too I would imagine
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04-15-2017, 01:59 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
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Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Utah often has quite a few buses available. Idaho only seems to have a few at a time.
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04-15-2017, 02:26 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: WI
Posts: 55
Year: 1995
Chassis: International 3600
Engine: T444E
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04-15-2017, 02:28 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: WI
Posts: 55
Year: 1995
Chassis: International 3600
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Not sure why it duplicated everything.
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04-15-2017, 03:19 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Grand Junction CO
Posts: 19
Year: 1986
Engine: 8.2L Detroit turbo
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It only makes sense (to me )for bolt heads to rust out like that if the water came from inside, or the head is Lose and water went inside... Either way I would check.
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