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Old 03-08-2018, 07:37 PM   #1
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Thoughts on this BUS 97 Blue Bird AA 8.3L

Im looking for a bus, found this today. Your thoughts on price and make. They said the engine was just rebuilt. Why would they rebuild a bus with only 233,000miles? Thanks

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sg...507898580.html
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:24 PM   #2
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Im looking for a bus, found this today. Your thoughts on price and make. They said the engine was just rebuilt. Why would they rebuild a bus with only 233,000miles? Thanks

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sg...507898580.html
Bus engines are considered "Severe Duty" in most applications.

A rebuild at 233k is not unusual or unexpected.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:27 PM   #3
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Thanks for the response. I appreciate it
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:50 PM   #4
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Thanks for the response. I appreciate it
I'll respond a bit more:

All diesel truck engines have something called a "B50", and most a "B10" too.

The B50 is the mileage at which 50% of the engines could expect to need a rebuild, under Normal service.

The B10 is the mileage by which 10% of the engines could expect a rebuild.

For most of our engines, the B50 ranges from 350 to 500 thousand miles, with corresponding B10 figures of maybe 200k miles.

So even for a medium truck engine in a medium truck, we could expect 10% of the engines to need rebuilding at the mileage you quoted.

In a bus, particularly a school bus, the usage pattern drops the engine into "severe" duty and those numbers come down. Depending on how the bus was used, they can come down a long way.

The good news is that some engines can be rebuilt at home for maybe $2k, and once it's done, the expected life of the engine will not be the School Bus use, but your use.

Rebuild a Cummins 8.3 or Navistar DT466, and look after it, and you have just built up to half a million miles into its life.
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8.3 in that bus is a plus as well as the fact it is still in operation. $11000 is about $7k to much. Hopefully not you, but someone will overpay for that bus.

The ones that concern me are the ones with 70k on them and have already had an engine and trans rebuild.
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4k? I see a lot of buses go for around that but not all american re with the 8.3. Or at least I haven't see any in the last few months. Not looking to drive across country. Any tips on places to look? Thanks
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4k? I see a lot of buses go for around that but not all american re with the 8.3. Or at least I haven't see any in the last few months. Not looking to drive across country. Any tips on places to look? Thanks
Mine was $4k, you can see it in my threads. I went 500 miles to get it. It is the Thomas equivalent of the All American from Blue Bird, with the added bonus of a high ceiling.
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I'll admit there are not a lot of 8.3's around, but that doesn't make it a $4k option to me. Give me a minute and I'll look.
None with an 8.3, but there are 25 Type D buses for sale on PublicSurplus, every one listed as "non running", what's that all about? All starting at $925.
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I'll admit there are not a lot of 8.3's around, but that doesn't make it a $4k option to me. Give me a minute and I'll look.
None with an 8.3, but there are 25 Type D buses for sale on PublicSurplus, every one listed as "non running", what's that all about? All starting at $925.
"Non-running" is difficult.

The best bargains are there but unless you know more.

Many just have flat batteries but the seller doesn't want to say the bus is a runner.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:45 PM   #10
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So many in Florida. The 1 in Las Vegas look promising.

Item is a 2004 Thomas Saf-T- Liner school bus. Equipped with Cummins ISC engine, Allison automatic transmission, air conditioning, and adjustable pedals. This unit is in currently NON- RUNNING condition due to hydraulic fan motor failure. The engine does run and the unit will move under its own power but only for short distances due to no engine cooling fan. Batteries would need to be installed before attempting to start the engine. ( see photo`s). Offered at no reserve.
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