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10-08-2018, 04:14 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Reading, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24
Year: 2006
Chassis: International IC RE300
Engine: International 7.6L diesel
Rated Cap: 33,000
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Weight question!
ANYONE KNOW THE WEIGHT OF AN INTERNATIONAL PB305 45 PASSENGER BUS?!?!
don't want to have to wing it for insurance
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10-08-2018, 05:05 PM
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#2
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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They likely won't care about what it weighs, but what the GVWR is and they will know that from the VIN.
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10-08-2018, 08:41 PM
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#3
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Reading, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24
Year: 2006
Chassis: International IC RE300
Engine: International 7.6L diesel
Rated Cap: 33,000
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thanks I actually have a picture of the GVWR and sent em that.
its 33,000 which seems high. hoping thats okay without a CDL after converted. I thought I read something that said a GWVR over 26,000 requires CDL...
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10-08-2018, 08:45 PM
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#4
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saucenbach
thanks I actually have a picture of the GVWR and sent em that.
its 33,000 which seems high. hoping thats okay without a CDL after converted. I thought I read something that said a GWVR over 26,000 requires CDL...
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Many states waive the CDL weight requirement if it's an RV.
I'm sure your build out will not be close to that number
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10-09-2018, 08:25 PM
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#5
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saucenbach
thanks I actually have a picture of the GVWR and sent em that.
its 33,000 which seems high. hoping thats okay without a CDL after converted. I thought I read something that said a GWVR over 26,000 requires CDL...
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- Go weigh your bus at a local CAT scale (truckstops)
- Check with YOUR state's DMV for licensing requirements.
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10-09-2018, 10:24 PM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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If we knew where you are we may be able to give more specific answers. Regulations vary by state.
Perhaps you could fill out your profile?
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10-10-2018, 10:29 AM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptSquid
- Go weigh your bus at a local CAT scale (truckstops)
- Check with YOUR state's DMV for licensing requirements.
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As far as I know, what your bus weighs has nothing to do with anything. When considering weight rules, the State will go by GVWR, which is the load capacity of the bus. I don't know who to legally change that GVWR on a chassis. Mine weighs 19400, state still says GVWR is 33000.
PS, I forgot I had already posted this info.
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10-10-2018, 10:33 AM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Lotf of members have had theirs changed in Florida when converting to RV title. I plan to attempt the same thing.
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10-10-2018, 10:39 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Lotf of members have had theirs changed in Florida when converting to RV title. I plan to attempt the same thing.
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I don't understand how you can change a manufacturers rating just because you took weigh off. The GVWR is the maximum load that chassis can handle safely, that doesn't change, ever.
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10-10-2018, 12:14 PM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Lotf of members have had theirs changed in Florida when converting to RV title. I plan to attempt the same thing.
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I changed mine when I had the 40 footer.
Stuff varies from state to state, office to office, and employee to employee. YMMV.
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10-10-2018, 01:12 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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10-19-2018, 07:06 PM
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#12
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Almost There
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Port Townsend, WA
Posts: 89
Year: 1969
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Ford B-750
Engine: 390 BB
Rated Cap: 2 humans, 1 cat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
As far as I know, what your bus weighs has nothing to do with anything. When considering weight rules, the State will go by GVWR, which is the load capacity of the bus. I don't know who to legally change that GVWR on a chassis. Mine weighs 19400, state still says GVWR is 33000.
PS, I forgot I had already posted this info.
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In South Dakota the cost to license it (license plates and annual tags) varies depending on unloaded weight for RVs - so I made sure to weight it before we got the bed frame and appliances in!!
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10-19-2018, 07:14 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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So I recently learned it's the owner of the chassis that sets the GVWR. So you are correct that when you tell them it is less when you go to rereg.. Your plate will show a 26000+- weight on the tag and that can't be exceeded and costs will be accordingly.
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