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03-19-2018, 11:34 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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The problem is it's being listed by a dealer, at the lower price he is double what it's worth. I just bought basically that bus, but front engine, for $2425.
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03-20-2018, 07:17 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Pendleton Indiana
Posts: 348
Year: 2010
Coachwork: IC
Engine: MF DT466
Rated Cap: 81
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Chip a few more 1k off not bad. Being AZ bus prob not a spec rust on it. Can find cheaper but not bad from a dealer.
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03-20-2018, 09:38 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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high torque DT466E, and A/C.. dealers like to mark up for A/C, so if you are planning on ripping out the A/C and dont want it, then dont buy a bus fro ma dealer that has it, you are paying a lot for something you'll end up giving away..
-Christopher
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03-20-2018, 09:42 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Angelus Oaks, CA
Posts: 31
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Is the HT motor desirable over the regular DT. Definitely ripping out the ac.
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03-20-2018, 09:56 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexjpx
Is the HT motor desirable over the regular DT. Definitely ripping out the ac.
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somewhat but not a huge amount.. it is a higher torque variant used on many of the rear engine busses..
if you are yanking the AC (I wouldnt if you plan to drive anywhere in summer) then I would find one without it or one at auction where AC doesnt seem to demand a higher price.. 7k isnt too bad for a bus like that with A/C.. its quite possible/ likely that the dealer put $$ into the A/C to make it work - that cost is getting passed to you and then thrown away when you yank it.
-Christopher
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03-20-2018, 10:31 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Nice looking bus. I have to go along with the crowd, two to three times what you can find a similar bus for at auction.
It pains me to see people pulling working otr air conditioning out and tossing it. That is the one feature that my bus is missing.
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03-20-2018, 10:37 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
Posts: 751
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A good rule is "Don't get rid of what you got". Think long and hard before you tear out AC systems, Heaters and Dashboards.
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Former owner of a 1969 F600 Skoolie.
1998 Ford B700 Thomas body 65 passenger. 5.9 Cummins 12 valve with MT643 Transmission 123,000 miles.
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03-20-2018, 10:44 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Nice looking bus. I have to go along with the crowd, two to three times what you can find a similar bus for at auction.
It pains me to see people pulling working otr air conditioning out and tossing it. That is the one feature that my bus is missing.
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and i added it to one of my busses... .. there are many people who chase the "sunny and 70" so feel they dont need A/C and good heat.. others drive the bus once or twice a year and its parked the rest of the time. I kind of get that it uses up space .. but for me since my bus is rolling pretty much 95% of the time im in it. it is a must have.
the biggest point though is that. dealers command a premium for A/C.. couple grand at least... auctions not as much. I see A/C and non A/C busses sell for similar prices at auctions.. so id nearly never buy one from a dealer with A/C if I didnt plan on using it..
-Christopher
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03-20-2018, 01:32 PM
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#10
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Angelus Oaks, CA
Posts: 31
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Thanks for the input!
So I plan on moving my wife and 3 kids onto the bus for a few years. We will be in all types of climates. I was planning on removing the AC as I have to install one that can run with the motor off from A/C power or possibly a generator. I figured it was heavy and took up space. I will give it some more thought before I remove it.
I will keep looking but its the perfect season to start my project with hopes to mostly finish before next winter. I don't really want to spend 6 months searching.
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03-20-2018, 02:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Alexjpx,
When I converted my first bus I removed the air conditioner and installed two 12.5k Btu roof air's and a generator to run them. Worked great going down the road until outside temps got over 80F..,.....
90+ outside and I was MISERABLE!!!!!
I made a few mistakes on my first bus. Removing the air conditioner was by far the worst.
Just my $0.02
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03-20-2018, 04:08 PM
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#12
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Angelus Oaks, CA
Posts: 31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Alexjpx,
When I converted my first bus I removed the air conditioner and installed two 12.5k Btu roof air's and a generator to run them. Worked great going down the road until outside temps got over 80F..,.....
90+ outside and I was MISERABLE!!!!!
I made a few mistakes on my first bus. Removing the air conditioner was by far the worst.
Just my $0.02
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Thank you! That was the plan. We will be traveling through AZ and southern Utah in the summer. The AC is back in the floor plan.
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