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Old 10-21-2010, 10:34 AM   #11
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:44 PM   #12
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:25 PM   #13
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One final comment - a quote from Laurence J. Peter: Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.

To all those who doubt global warming is real, may you stay blissfully uninformed and magically ignorant this Christmas.
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One final comment - a quote from Laurence J. Peter: Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.

Yeah--Y'all keep that in mind, Pharmboi.

To all those who cover their eyes and ears to the mountain of evidence refuting AGW, may you stay blissfully uninformed and magically ignorant this Christmas.
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One final comment - a quote from Laurence J. Peter: Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.

To all those who doubt global warming is real, may you stay blissfully uninformed and magically ignorant this Christmas.
Posted by someone who has a diesel bus. Shouldn't you find a more energy thing... like a tent? And the phrase is "Climate Change" now. I have no doubt the climate changes. After all in Shakespeare's day, the Thames River would freeze thick enough that huge lorries, loaded down with freight, pulled by several teams of horses, would be driven across it. This occurred for many years. In Medieval times, monks (the guys who were literate enough to keep accurate records), wrote of "the year without summer". And it was not the only example of short term radical climate change. The basic fact that many folks, including scientists forget is that the weather patterns in this planet are measured in terms of hundreds to thousands, even millions of years. While we do need to pull back on what we do to harm this planet, is is amazingly resilient. So before you start posting things or saying things about "global warming/Climate change" perhaps you need to look closer to home... like in the mirror. To post on this forum, you need power to power your computer... where does your power come from? If it came from PV cells... what did that involve? What are the pollutants that making PV cells create? How did you get your PV cells from the manufacturer? That involved fuel usages of some sort. What about your computer? I'm pretty sure the solder alone has a pile of lead in it. And that's not taking into account all the pollutants involved with the production of all the components. What are you wearing? All cotton or natural fibers I hope... and are you sure? And you wove the material and sewed them by hand right? And about that mirror... Do you know how mirrors are made? Are you breathing? You are putting out Carbon Dioxide (CO2)... you are a pollution creator... STOP BREATHING! I know that is taking things to extremes but have you really stopped and thought about it. Let's face it. We are just short-lived lower life forms, living among other short-lived lower life forms, on a spinning ball, circulating a dying sun. Have a nice day!

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Here's NASA latest comments on Global Warming;

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"The Sun is the primary forcing of Earth's climate system. Sunlight warms our world. Sunlight drives atmospheric and oceanic circulation patterns. Sunlight powers the process of photosynthesis that plants need to grow. Sunlight causes convection which carries warmth and water vapor up into the sky where clouds form and bring rain. In short, the Sun drives almost every aspect of our world's climate system and makes possible life as we know it.

"... According to scientists' models of Earth's orbit and orientation toward the Sun indicate that our world should be just beginning to enter a new period of cooling -- perhaps the next ice age...

"Other important forcings of Earth's climate system include such "variables" as clouds, airborne particulate matter, and surface brightness. Each of these varying features of Earth's environment has the capacity to exceed the warming influence of greenhouse gases and cause our world to cool. "

I think it may be time for you Global Warming guys to find a new cause to complain and worry about. This Man Made Global Warming dupe is falling apart.


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It was NASA, home of our space program, the currently unmuzzled James Hansen and one of the major centers for collecting climate data and analyzing it. (HT: Ace.)

The NASA statement is simply astounding to me. It says, quite unambiguously, that our climate is dominated by the sun and our orientation to it. It also credits non-carbon sources as "important forcings" of our climate: clouds, particulate matter and surface brightness. Finally, it warns of coming global cooling!

Of course, the NASA statement still says there is human-caused warming. But, it will be swamped by these other forces to yield net cooling. In short, whatever man is doing to the climate, it is insignificant in the face of natural forcings.

The science "consensus" has not only collapsed, it has raised the white flag and confessed that the skeptics were right all along. I think we can stick a fork in the climate change agenda. A few nuts will continue to wander the streets, mumbling to themselves and each other. But as a significant political agenda, I think it's over.
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The disintegration of this political juggernaut known as global warming is as imminent now as it is remarkable. The heights from which these scientists' credibility has plunged is equaled only by the speed.

Consider that it was only last year when the scientific and political world was held spellbound by the deliberations of the U.N. Climate Change summit held in Copenhagen. Nearly 45,000 attendees anxiously anticipated a global climate agreement that could spare us all from the imminent planetary incineration about to befall us thanks to the unholy alliance of SUVs, deforestation, and belching cows. American taxpayers alone shelled out nearly $400,000 for Nancy Pelosi to lead a cadre of liberal congressmen and staffers to attend the Warmer deliberations.

Yet now, just one year later, political leaders are staying as far away from the annual climate summit (this year held in Cancun) as possible. Even the Congressional Warmer triumvirate of Henry Waxman, Dianne Feinstein, and Barbara Boxer skipped the festivities. Remember, it was Boxer who proclaimed not so long ago that global warming was her "signature issue." Yet when it came time for this year's convention, Boxer merely murmured, "I'm sending a statement to Cancun."

Meanwhile, across the pond, things aren't much better for the global warming hysterics in the British Meteorological Office. As the Met geared up for Copenhagen in 2009, they were warning of the "warmest year on record." Fast-forward to this year, and as Britain is in the grip of yet another extraordinarily frigid winter, their admonitions are much more subdued. Even the Daily Mail noted why: "Buried amid the details of those two Met Office statements 12 months apart lies a remarkable climbdown that has huge implications -- not just for the Met Office, but for debate over climate change as a whole ... for the past 15 years, global warming has stopped."
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Can anyone tell me why it is that the milquetoast liberals line up on the global warming side and the wingnuts on the denial side?
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Since you asked, I'm an anarchist...
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