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Old 07-19-2007, 04:01 PM   #11
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I like that name " Wobble hats" Will see if I buy some or if I just put some Silver POR-15 on the rims (RedNeck Chrome Wheels)
Thinking about tires, how the heck would a guy change a tire on a 40 foot bus? Where would one store a spare? What kind of jack would I need to be able to jack this puppy up?
I have done the painting them silver thing, and it looked pretty good. Can't tell you how long they stayed that way because I have new wheels now.



I jacked up my bus and took the wheel off once to work on the steering arm. It took two people with a T-handle wrench and two cheater bars to get the nuts loose but it could be done on the side of the road. I used two normal heavy duty floor jacks.

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Old 07-19-2007, 04:27 PM   #12
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I dont think getting the wheel off would be a problem (air hammer wrench) but jacking the thing up could be a problem.
I was thinking along the way of a piece of 2x10 on the ground to keep the jack from sinking and then som3 20ton bottlejack will hopefully be strong enough to lift one wheel off the ground. A heavier task will be wrestling that wheel around and then get it back on. They are not really lightweight.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:39 PM   #13
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Re: Wheels ???


I failed to consider where you would be driving!

Yes, you need to get a lesson from a pro, round up the proper equipment, and practice at home. Stout board, big bottle jack, long pry bar for lifting tire-and-wheel off the ground onto the hub...

So I'm changing my response to: Find a pro who is willing to teach you, hands on.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:02 PM   #14
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One nice thing about dayton is they are easier to mount on the bus, you don't need to line up the holes but even that isn't too hard. You can set the height with the jack and you can slide the wheel right on or use a long bar under the tire to lift it up. As for looseing the nuts lifting up takes less effort than trying to push down. Also keep the nuts on part way on the rear before hitting the wheel with a hammer or prying on it with a bar cause those wheel clamps can shoot out pretty quick.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:32 PM   #15
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Re: Wheels ???

Just for the nuts of it all...what does a bus tire and Dayton rim weigh roughly in the 10.00R20 or 11R22.5 size range? When I had my flat replaced at a tire shop last year they used a tire jack, but I can't imagine that they're ALL that much heavier than a big Super Swamper and I've wrestled plenty of those into place before.
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or use a long bar under the tire to lift it up.
I when I had my six new wheels mounted on the bus that is how they lifted the tires to get the bolts lined up.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:33 AM   #17
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You can also carry a spare unmounted (steering) tire. A good tire guy can mount one by the side of the road on your rim with spoons in just a few minutes. Can be much cheaper than buying a tire from him (by the side of the road -- $$$$ -- if the tire place has one (probably so)). If it's a rear dual, keep on going 'til you get someplace (maybe not so in AK, though).
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Good luck on changing one of these on the side of the road, spoken like a true novice. I have changed ALL my wheels myself and let me tell you, you better be in good shape because you will be worn slick after you do ONE yourself. It takes me about an hour to get the old one off and the new one on (when in practice) and I have done around a dozen so far. You will need special tire tools like a bead sledge, spoons, soap etc and of course a jack on flat ground. The only impact that will work is a 1" with at least a 5/8 hose with 150# of air pressure feeding it. I don't even bother carrying any of that stuff in my bus, I plan on calling a tire place and having them fix it. I'll call them up, tell them my tire size and waiting for them to put a brand new one on. The added expense of paying them would be offset by the space you would lose carring a spare and you spending several hours jacking around trying to get your tire changed and calling them up later anyway. You would have to carry a spare tire if you planned on putting one on and that would take up entirely too much space. As far as getting service you would be suprised where they are and where they will go, how little it really costs, and there is one around every corner, you just haven't looked. sportyrick
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sportyrick I agree with your post as far as the changing tire goes, however with your statement about having a tireshop around every corner I have to ask " how often have you travelled the Alaska Hwy, Yukon territory, Northern BC yet???? If you know of any hidden tire repair shops up here that I might have mist in the past let me know."
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I'd say to just have a spare under the bus on maybe a rack that hangs down. Now when I say spare I mean a tire already mounted on a rim. Then as for changing the flat it is as easy as changing it out which doesn't take too long. A impact is nice to use but isn't necessary, all you need is a large breaker bar with a long cheater bar on it for extra leverage. It can be done this way but it is easier to use an impact. Here at home I use a 3/4 IR261 with a 1/2 hose and a small air compressor which can't maintain air pressure over 120 psi it does work better at the shop using 3/4 inch hose with 160 psi. The first time I changed my wheels from 20 inch to 22.5 I used the breaker/cheater bar method and after that I found my 3/4 impact on ebay.
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