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Old 08-06-2016, 01:29 PM   #11
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Agreed. The media and advertising agencies have conditioned us to buy THINGS. "He who dies with the most toys wins." Our domestic economy relies on consumer spending. It's a vicious cycle. I have been selling off my "things" since last Spring. I'm exhausted and sick and tired of the rat race. I'm converting a skoolie and plan on touring North America, maybe Central America; maybe for the rest of my life. I'll let the Joneses keep up with themselves...

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I think this is also what's generating the Tiny House movement also....
Friend's, family, corporations have conditioned people to believe they need to live in a sticks and stones house, pay high mortgage rates, high insurance, pay the repairman to come out and fix something...buy these shoes, these clothes, wear this jewelry. Let's get a gazillion shipping containers from China! Revolve, revolve, revolve that money!

People are waking up and saying 'hey, why am I broke?' Why are other people profiting from my hard labor?
Oh yeah, because that's how our ancestors did it.


And guess what?!?!
When you think outside the box.... You're met with opposition!
Because their ancestors conditioned them!
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Old 08-06-2016, 01:44 PM   #12
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Sounds about right. You must be brainwashed to believe its ok/normal to buy a $600 electronic device (every year) or a car that cost as much to purchase as it does to maintain.
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Old 08-06-2016, 01:49 PM   #13
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I've only had one new car- a 98 Chevy Tahoe LS that I had to special order. Everything else has been used, and at least 10 years old (And usually Swedish).
'81 Volvo 242- sold for a computer while at NASKEF, Iceland in '93
'76 Volvo 242- totaled in Grand Forks, 94
'84 Volvo Turbo (242)- Totaled in '95
'85 Volvo 740- Sold '98
'98 Chevy Tahoe LS- totaled by the ex in '04 (while prepping to ship out to Iraq)
'95 Volvo 740 Turbo- stolen in Chattanooga while there for the police test in '07
'94 Volvo 240- sold back to BIL (subsequent blown engine) '07
'03 Pontiac Grand Prix GT- died this year
'97 Volvo 850T5 sports wagon, with 211k miles on the clock and rescued it from the crusher

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Old 08-06-2016, 01:51 PM   #14
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Have a dumb phone, a 1990 geo Tracker, 2001 neon, 2000 BB, '04 Scooter. Paid for house with 728 sf. No debt, good life.

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Old 08-06-2016, 02:06 PM   #15
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I've only had one new car- a 98 Chevy Tahoe LS that I had to special order. Everything else has been used, and at least 10 years old (And usually Swedish).
'81 Volvo 242- sold for a computer while at NASKEF, Iceland in '93
'76 Volvo 242- totaled in Grand Forks, 94
'84 Volvo Turbo (242)- Totaled in '95
'85 Volvo 740- Sold '98
'98 Chevy Tahoe LS- totaled by the ex in '04 (while prepping to ship out to Iraq)
'95 Volvo 740 Turbo- stolen in Chattanooga while there for the police test in '07
'94 Volvo 240- sold back to BIL (subsequent blown engine) '07
'03 Pontiac Grand Prix GT- died this year
'97 Volvo 850T5 sports wagon, with 211k miles on the clock and rescued it from the crusher

Cool car! I know Volvo has a long safety record... But what else keeps you coming back?
I would think being Swedish that parts are difficult to find or are more expansive. Are you able to do your own major repairs?

I haven't really looked, but I don't think my burb's headlights have been so dirty they needed wipers! lol
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Old 08-06-2016, 02:14 PM   #16
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Cool car! I know Volvo has a long safety record... But what else keeps you coming back?
I would think being Swedish that parts are difficult to find or are more expansive. Are you able to do your own major repairs?

I haven't really looked, but I don't think my burb's headlights have been so dirty they needed wipers! lol
Parts are no more expensive online than any other manufacturer. And, so long as I stay away from the local dealer, major repairs aren't that bad either. As for the parts being Swedish, that is, sadly, no longer the case since the early 00's. My car, is in fact, one of the last models (the 940/960 is the other) to say "Built in Sweden".

As for why I keep coming back? My late grandfather ran one of the first Volvo dealers in the NYC tri-state area, my late father worked on them as an independent mechanic for 25 years. Because of that, my family has always had Volvos; plus there's common sense when it comes to their engineering (unlike Saab's of the same vintage). I can access all sides of the block, unlike in my Grand Prix; everything is right where I need it to add or check fluids. AND I don't feel like a dork in a station wagon, unlike if I were in a minivan
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Old 08-06-2016, 02:21 PM   #17
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My brother buys new cars for himself and his husband every two years. That's what he likes, so what else is he going to spend his money on? Stuff he doesn't like?
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Old 08-06-2016, 02:50 PM   #18
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I'll take my NEW cars over the old ones any day... im a techie guy and want the latest smartphone integrations, best infotainment,.. I dont want to Own anything... I get tired of the same ole after a couple years.. i always want warranty...

I like Clean, sheen, shine, and fresh....

I could care less about car payments.. I dont have a wife, i dont have kids, I dont have a dog.. so i likely spend less on any car I have than people do on such things as kids, wives, and dogs.. so car payments for me are my enjoyment...

I have zero repair bills and zero maintenance.. i dont have time to be broke down and then have to shop for tires and do oil changes, etc.. I hop in and drive.. when ai get tired of the car i simply send it down the road... 2 year leases are a dream for a guy like me...

if I didnt enjoy the feel, look, sound , and energy of an OLD bus I probably wouldve Leased a new one... but the new busses are too much like cars and less like TRUCKS and I like that old TRUCK feel....

if I hadnt have listened to my dumbass father i wouldnt own a house either.. id rather not own it and just rent apartments where i can live wherever whenever however.. i want a more permanent address than living a bus having to worry about where to park every night and not having permanent internet.. I use about 200 Gigs of internet a month so Id go broke if I had to use cellular for that like i would if I lived in a bus...

my house will be on sale likely in the spring.. i have my florida apartment rented.. I plan to drive the bus back and forth between my house and the apartment as its moy mobile DEV lab that i can work while travelling.. once the house sells I'll have a downtown loft in the cuty of Columbus and still use the bus to go back and forth...

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Old 08-06-2016, 03:24 PM   #19
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Its different if your a techie or really into whatever it is you put your money on. I know people that buy 550$ Jordans and they are happy. Others drop 1200$ at the strip club and they see nothing wrong with it...and there isn't.

But when you are someone who is struggling and you realize you wouldn't be if you focused on what you wanted/needed instead of what you've been "conditioned" to want/need...Ahaa...Ahaaaaa! (in my Eddie Murphy voice).

BTW my 7-11 run$ are way too much I need to cut it
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Old 08-06-2016, 03:29 PM   #20
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Have a dumb phone, a 1990 geo Tracker, 2001 neon, 2000 BB, '04 Scooter. Paid for house with 728 sf. No debt, good life.

Bought one new car in 1964, that's it for new cars.
LOL I'm going dumb next year
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