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Old 08-07-2016, 10:41 AM   #31
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I had a CVPI ordered brand new.. a local dealer here in town would order them for civilians.. had it optioned like a CVLX with the niceties in it... darn it if I didnt get my order kicked back by 1 day!!!! I wanted one fresh and new that hasdnt been abused by a municipality... almost had it... wasnt a $ short but was a day late ...
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Old 08-07-2016, 03:56 PM   #32
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I hate new stuff.
My 2013 subaru I ordered new from Japan in 2013 has burned lots of oil since new. My bus uses less oil than my "eco-green-friendly" car.
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Old 08-07-2016, 05:37 PM   #33
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all subis use oil... as long as you keep it full it will run forever
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all subis use oil... as long as you keep it full it will run forever
There are lots of folks out there with major problems thanks to subaru's FB and FA engines. The EJ was actually a BETTER engine even though they went through head gaskets like most of us use oil filters.
The NEW ones are built cheaper and crappier than ever. Buy one and see.
No new car should burn a quart of oil every 1000 miles.
Subaru have spent their money on PR instead of making it right.
I've owned a lot of cars and other than the actual awd aspect, subaru are complete garbage.
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There are lots of folks out there with major problems thanks to subaru's FB and FA engines. The EJ was actually a BETTER engine even though they went through head gaskets like most of us use oil filters.
The NEW ones are built cheaper and crappier than ever. Buy one and see.
No new car should burn a quart of oil every 1000 miles.
Subaru have spent their money on PR instead of making it right.
I've owned a lot of cars and other than the actual awd aspect, subaru are complete garbage.

I know quite a few people that have subis with over 250k miles on them and have used oil since day 2...

the Jeeo wrangler 3.8 is another one... everyone freaked in 2007 / 2008 when these engines used oil... yet as long as people didnt run them out there are many people with 3.8's in wranglers rockin the 200k club now pouring a quart in every 1000 miles...

seems a lot of diesels use oil too... I see a lot of truckers out on the road adding oil to their trucks that keep on running... Rotella is sold in gallons not quarts....

I suppose I should be worried that I put 2 quarts in my Bus in the 3800 miles Ive driven it since i got it?

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We aren't talking the GOOD subaru's made ten years ago.
The new ones are crap-ola.
Diesels all use oil. that's normal.
Half the new subaru's sold have ring problems that subaru knows about. Its a crappy design and crappy execution. No new car should burn oil like its a 1975 chevy vega.

All that burnt oil clogs up sensors and catalytic converters and to make it to that 100k-200k "club" costs thousands in replacements and repairs.
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interesting I didnt know they had changed their design... yeah the subis i know about running 250k plus are early to late 90s legacy, outback, and a WRX or two... I was thinkin g they had the same boxer engine they always had just with computer controls and more advanced turbos (for the WRX / STI)...

but yes you sre right burned oil definitely jacks up the sensors and emission systems of today...

None of my New cars use any oil... not even my smart car which I drive Like I stole it every single day.. it has 22k Hard driven miles... road trips through the mountains, city traffic and everything in between...

my Chevy truck keeps losing its Freon... and the dealer cant find the leak... its a 15 so i just keep sending it back every couple months.. I surmise the leak is in the dashboard and they dont want to tear the whole truck apart to get to it...

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My GMC couldn't keep freon in it, either. Spent LOTS of time and money on trying to figure that one out.
Subaru changed their classic engine design in 2011/2012 and the new F engines are real nightmares. Both to own and to repair.
I'd trade my 2013 XV Crosstrek with 46k miles on it for a 1999 Impreza Outback with the same miles any day.
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