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Old 05-31-2016, 01:05 PM   #31
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RC000E, just wondering where you're located. And where you have a line on two Crown Supercoach II's

Looking through the pictures on eBay... the ratty looking driver's seat means it probably has a lot of hours on it... however, the school district they're from is in a big city so they probably have pretty good maintenance on them. Also, they don't have the high clearance roofs which is kind of a bummer.
Thanks for the insight on that. I talked to the guy who middle mans the deal. He said he is getting out of the business but, that the trio of Thomas busses he got here were some of the nicest he'd seen. I mean...I take that with a grain of salt but, the body appears pretty good. No hours indicated in the listing, nor did he know off hand. What can ya do really...gotta take a chance overall I suppose. Good to know it likely have good fleet maintenance schedule.

On the Crowns...yeah, I'm in discussions. These aren't listed anywhere and are in service at this time. I also know of a Twinkie Crown with a turbo cummins missing the turbo, that could go cheap. These are owned by a bus company that I have an inside line to. Depending on this Thomas, I may still go with the Crown...I have to see how this pans out.

The two Crowns are legal until the end of 2017, so they are good to go until then. The ownership would like to not go to the end of the line though, and simply get new buses. I have an opportunity to buy multiple at once, for a bulk sum, and we are negotiating that now. If so, I'd be essentially seeking "partners" to buy in and hopefully get a couple of Crowns cheap (indicated there may be 4 in total). I'd have no interest in taking profit, just covering costs, time, travel (if necessary) and ending up with one of the buses. Legitimate interested parties should contact me direct. These buses will have 300k+ miles on them, but are constantly maintained and are used frequently. I've known about them for over a year.
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Old 05-31-2016, 01:36 PM   #32
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Thanks for the info. I intend to take my bus offline next spring and start converting it but a nice Crown could be tempting...

With the Thomas I would definitely go through with the deal. The way the front headlights appear with the black trim and the Saf-t-liner logo tells me that they are the heavy duty version instead of the lower line, more common MVP version. I'm not an expert but that would be my guess.
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Old 05-31-2016, 01:50 PM   #33
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Yeah, I am definitely moving forward. I'll have to get the bus in hand to really make a decision, but the bet here is small enough that I feel pretty positive about it. I saw some mentions of air suspension and what-not...have to say I'm kind of conflicted on that being a good or bad. Granted the ride quality is improved, and I suppose that'd be a somewhat off the shelf airbag type of suspension setup, again though I wonder about repair/component costs for things like that. Hell, my ride leveling shocks on my Escalade were a fortune! I loved that vehicle, but I had to dump that money hog....for now. That may be a mobile office platform for me in the future though...a high roof Suburban that is...I don't need the premium money shiny stuff.
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:01 PM   #34
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The M1077 lmtv (us military) uses a cat 3126, they aren't a bad engine. Certainly have their share of stupid problems, but not really any worse for other engines of that size.

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Thomas bus with nice belly storage, 84 passenger, rear engine...ticked all the boxes I wanted. I recalled seeing it had a DT466, but must've mixed up some listings. Low and behold, I win the auction and realize it's a CAT3126.

Now I wonder, should I purchase, convert and possibly sell, or take the chance with this bus, OR pass on the auction? 126k miles on it, says it was in regular service up until mid last year. 3500.00

I've felt like most reading says to avoid the CAT like the plague.

Need some advice.
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:15 PM   #35
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I was bidding on a number of LMTV's...those military mechanics dont speak too highly. Then again, when you have a bunch of 19 years old working on diesel equipment, that's bound to not go well. I frequent a lot of gov auction sites...the work you see done on LMTV's and Hummers...I mean...it's laughable at times.

I agree though...people scream about every engine out there. They all have their problems, but you're seeing pocket cases versus the hundreds of thousands on the road. I'm not worried about it...if it shits itself, then it shits itself.
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Old 06-01-2016, 01:18 PM   #36
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Sounds like you got it at a good enough price you could probably unload it and not lose anything if it ends up not being what you thought it should be..

Best way is like you say get it home and drive it. It's bound to have kinks and quirks..

I've Been driving my bus around as a daily driver just to learn it and fix things I find..

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Old 06-01-2016, 01:29 PM   #37
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Old 06-01-2016, 02:47 PM   #38
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Sounds like you got it at a good enough price you could probably unload it and not lose anything if it ends up not being what you thought it should be..

Best way is like you say get it home and drive it. It's bound to have kinks and quirks..

I've Been driving my bus around as a daily driver just to learn it and fix things I find..

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Old 06-01-2016, 03:40 PM   #39
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Well my 20002 Saf-T-Liner purchase ended up falling through so if you decide to flip it I may be interested. Mine ended up not being geared for highway speed.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:53 PM   #40
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I don't foresee flipping it. If I can grab a decent bus, then I'll initiate the conversion process quickly. Of course, I need to see what the gearing is going to give me. I need to drive it approximately 450 miles home, so I will have a pretty good indication by then I'm sure. We'll see...hopefully I get lucky.

On the crown note, the initial number on the supercoach 2 was 23k...ahhhhh....no. It still has a year of service left though so, I'll be waiting that one out.
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