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ValhallaD 02-22-2015 08:24 AM

Selling Valhalla
 
I am an owner/builder and am selling this sweet set up to start my next project a wooden home on a bit of acreage in Floyd VA. I will not be able to travel in the foreseeable future and this bus loves the road.

This is a full conversion, bus to home on wheels beautiful 1990 International, Diesel.
This is a 1 of a kind and is an amazing transformation.
It starts on a dime, for traveling fun, but could be a cozy small home on a wonderful piece of land.
1990 30'Valhalla bus is an amazing Home on Wheels conversion.

10' trailer for storage and is equipped with generator.

15x15 with fly Panther Primitive Marque/Tent.


Bus:
International Diesel.
Full electric with 12 volt and 110.
Inside is hand crafted woodwork .
Full size bed with bunk possibilities.
Shower, toilet, galley.
2 gray, 1 black holding tank,
15 gallon portable water holding tank, invertor,
leather love seat, curtains ( many extra items will be negotiable).
To build would cost over 40,000 to replicate.

The Trailer is equipped with a generator for backup, also has bike rakes and canoe rack.

Marque is 15 x15 with fly 'Panter Primitive' $1,900 new. Used big festivals 5 times. In pristine condition. Panther Primitives - The Best Historical Tents - Historical Reproduction Tents

Viewing is available by appointment. And the Price, we are taking offers in the region of $20,000.

nat_ster 02-22-2015 11:25 AM

Pics of the whole set up?

Nat

ValhallaD 02-22-2015 01:19 PM

only the 4 or 5 up on valhallad at this point.
Warmth

dond 02-22-2015 02:09 PM

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/member...albums645.html

EastCoastCB 02-23-2015 06:04 AM

Should put it in the classifieds.

claydbal 02-23-2015 06:25 AM

where did you find the accordian steps i see on the rear deck? thanks

bansil 02-23-2015 06:42 AM

I moved to classifieds to help you sell, redirect is good for 1 month

ValhallaD 02-23-2015 07:59 AM

Great
 
Appreciate the navigation to classified!
Not quite savvy on this site.
Val

ValhallaD 02-23-2015 08:21 AM

Bison RV in Portales, NM.
Sadly I heard they are closed down.
Val

ValhallaD 02-23-2015 08:23 AM

Hey Friends, are you all able to see the pics attached to my member name.
If not could someone advise me of the way to post in forum??

ValhallaD 02-23-2015 08:25 AM

I wanted to let you all know that I live in Floyd, VA.
You can contact bout the sale of Valhalla by email.

Malkieri 02-23-2015 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValhallaD (Post 100809)
I am an owner/builder and am selling this sweet set up to start my next project a wooden home on a bit of acreage in Floyd VA. I will not be able to travel in the foreseeable future and this bus loves the road.

This is a full conversion, bus to home on wheels beautiful 1990 International, Diesel.
This is a 1 of a kind and is an amazing transformation.
It starts on a dime, for traveling fun, but could be a cozy small home on a wonderful piece of land.
1990 30'Valhalla bus is an amazing Home on Wheels conversion.

10' trailer for storage and is equipped with generator.

15x15 with fly Panther Primitive Marque/Tent.


Bus:
International Diesel.
Full electric with 12 volt and 110.
Inside is hand crafted woodwork .
Full size bed with bunk possibilities.
Shower, toilet, galley.
2 gray, 1 black holding tank,
15 gallon portable water holding tank, invertor,
leather love seat, curtains ( many extra items will be negotiable).
To build would cost over 40,000 to replicate.

The Trailer is equipped with a generator for backup, also has bike rakes and canoe rack.

Marque is 15 x15 with fly 'Panter Primitive' $1,900 new. Used big festivals 5 times. In pristine condition. Panther Primitives - The Best Historical Tents - Historical Reproduction Tents

Viewing is available by appointment. And the Price, we are taking offers in the region of $20,000.

I am not trying to thread crap here, and don't want skoolie to become a "mean" forum. That being said, there is not much here but smoke asking for $20K. I make my living selling online and pics are an absolute must have. You have a bout a dozen, some are repeats. None are of a good quality or size for judgement of build quality. You never mention insulation of any sort, bus stock insulation (if it is even there) is worthless and likely filled with mold and/or mildew. You have no pics of toilet or shower. You seem to have carpet down, what's under that? Where did the bus originate? Is there rust? Did you fix rust? if so where and how? Do you have any pics of the work you did to the bus which demonstrates more than half-assed skills? The bus us still yellow and therefore illegal in much of the country, not to mention the red lights still up front. What engine and transmission is in it? How many miles have you put on it, and in what time frame? Brakes: Air or Hydraulic? Does title say MH or bus? What makes you think that it would cost $40k to build? What are the tires date codes? How many and where are the 12 volt and 120 volt outlets? What is her top speed? Is the driver's seat the only seat belt? What does the kitchen have? Fridge, stove, oven (brand/age/size/fuel)? How long have you had the bus? Do you live full time or weekend RV type use? You mention a trailer and provide no info, except that is has a genrator...what kind/size/fuel? How many hours are on Genny? how do you wire it up to the bus? Why do you have a ladder on the side, is there a roof deck?
I guess what I'm getting at is, there are many buses out there for sale in a similar condition and size to yours for $5k or less, what makes yours worth $20k?

bansil 02-23-2015 03:42 PM

Let's not turn this into a bashing thread


everyone play nice ;)

an Malkieri..this IS NOT meant at you....just everyone else that wants to jump on

He has been advised on price and we shall leave it at that..

Right?

Malkieri 02-23-2015 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bansil (Post 101038)
Let's not turn this into a bashing thread


everyone play nice ;)

an Malkieri..this IS NOT meant at you....just everyone else that wants to jump on

He has been advised on price and we shall leave it at that..

Right?

Honestly, I am hoping he or she will take this as a challenge to put up more/better pics and highly detailed info both about the bus itself and the build/process. A little back-story would be cool as well, I like people who think and act outside of the norm. I wasn't meaning to be cruel, I do come across that way, but it is not who I am. :D

mokibrabrant 03-03-2015 07:39 PM

I see no cruelty in the preceding post. On the contrary I see an advance to a reality check:

Part one of the education would be to see what 20K will purchase in the Converted Coach RV world at this moment in time:

In relation to that then check how the "School bus market" stacks up.
Even in very high end coaches no one recoups their investment. The school bus market even less so. I'm not going to tell you what your "build" is worth. But I suggest a realistic evaluation: I say this without any fear whatsoever that you have already sold this Build..............I look at thousands of buses a week. The question you need to ask yourself is how long do you want this bus to sit around and how quickly you would like to see some return on your investment to put into your "new" project. Again not to tear down. But to get you on your way............

The Kents 03-05-2015 11:31 AM

I apologize if I am being thick and have somehow missed this info, but where is this bus located?
Seth

mokibrabrant 03-05-2015 12:34 PM

Top of the page is the answer to your question.............I managed to thin it out for you :)
"I wanted to let you all know that I live in Floyd, VA.
You can contact bout the sale of Valhalla by email."

lornaschinske 03-05-2015 01:03 PM

Pic are here as mentioned earlier in the thread.

I suggest you break things down. Bus only price. Trailer only price. Tent only price. You will have a hard time finding someone who wants it all or wants to buy it all and then sell off the trailer and tent. Put it on Craigslist for local pickup only. If someone wants the trailer and/or the tent then you can make a deal. It will also allow you to to have someone looking at the tent and you can say... I got this trailer you can pack the tent into and by the way, I got this bus that you can tow the trailer with the tent packed into it... You may find someone who knows someone who is looking for one of the other items.

I think your price is a bit high. But I'm cheap. Plus I know what it cost to convert my 40 ft bus. I know what it will cost to do another one.

Good luck and get a bit more descriptive, add more detailed photos, and appeal to emotions and desires. You aren't selling a bus, you are selling an idea.

mokibrabrant 03-05-2015 01:11 PM

Hey Lornashinske. How's that 8.2 Liter four stroke detroit fuel pincher working out for you? Guess you aren't breaking any land speed records but has it been reliable.???

The Kents 03-05-2015 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mokibrabrant (Post 102162)
Top of the page is the answer to your question.............I managed to thin it out for you :)
"I wanted to let you all know that I live in Floyd, VA.
You can contact bout the sale of Valhalla by email."

Oops. Teach me to read a thread and respond on my phone. Thanks for dealing with my thick self.

lornaschinske 03-05-2015 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mokibrabrant (Post 102167)
Hey Lornashinske. How's that 8.2 Liter four stroke detroit fuel pincher working out for you? Guess you aren't breaking any land speed records but has it been reliable.???

Doing just fine. On the interstates, it keeps up with the loaded semi's both up hill and down hill. David & I found out several years back that running the US and more developed State highways was easier on us (particularly me) than running the Interstates. I even shave over an hour off bypassing Atlanta via I-75 to Macon/US441 (By Pass Athens)/US23/SR28 on into NC) On the US highways, the traffic tends to be lighter and you have fewer people trying to run you over for various reasons and there are lots of semi's on them who have figured out the same thing we did. The bus is not a lightweight vehicle nor is it an easily maneuverable vehicle. So no, I do not think it wise to run it over the 60-65mph it can do on the flats (much slower uphill). But running flat out also hurts the fuel mileage. I currently have more time than money. Nothing has been done to the engine since it was bought. Also except for the 1700+ mile trip thru Hell where we were on Interstates from Dalton, GA until we got off I-20 in Odessa/Midland, TX (I-20 TX in the summer, never again) and the trip to Roswell, it's not been on the road much. Before we left NC, a local diesel mechanic we knew looked at it (the same one who worked on our DD8V71N65). Said it looked good. Said it was a good engine for the bus. I do need to replace the radiator hoses if it ever warms up and dries out at the same time (got more white stuff last night). It cranks up on a single starter batter no matter the weather. Other than the 300 mile round trip to pick up Das Mel, the next trip I make will be to head back east (currently it stands at 2822 miles mostly on the "blue" highways, some interstates where it can't be avoided and will take over a month before we stop).

Since the bus tends to stay parked most of the time, I'm not terribly worried at how fast it can go. I have gotten the 22 ft Class C up to 80+mph and realized that if some fool got in front of me, I would have run the little speck over before I could stop. The Class C is much lighter than the bus. I would rather not think about what something would look like under the bus. I will stick with low MPH and high MPG.

To be honest, I find interstate driving incredibly boring and tiring. It's hard to just pull off anywhere you feel like it. The roads are not in that good of shape anymore. I avoid them as much as possible because I also do not make that good of time anymore. It's a bit harder to do that in the west but once I leave this place, I really don't think I will be back out here again. At least not for a long time. The Primary/Secondary road system in the east is much nicer and I still find "The Next Exit" book to be handy even though I am not on the interstate because I am crossing over them every so often. I can look at see what is at the exit that I will be crossing over at. Sometimes, I find that a side trip on the interstate yields a restaurant or truck stop. But usually the exit I cross over at has everything I need.

I still remember my parents traveling US441 from FL to NC because I-75 was not completed enough to run it the whole way. I still like running 441 as it's a good road thru some great little towns. Over the years, I've been on the entire length of 441 down to Belle Glade and over to Boca. Haven't been past Boca on 441 that I know of.

mokibrabrant 03-05-2015 04:43 PM

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Interesting............and happy to hear that engine is holding up well for you. That's what matters. That you are happy with it..............Me? I like the availability of speed. Money be damned for those lengthy and Tedious expansive areas of nothingness.............and hell. I'm in a bus. I park where I need to park.................move if I need to move. 80 mph in a class C bread truck with a house on it is not my idea of prudence or fun.

On the other hand 80 mph in my Mid engined Crown is quiet, controlled sure and I feel very very safe.............Oh. And it does go faster. :)

EastCoastCB 03-05-2015 04:47 PM

Well, shall we start a Lorna's Bus' 8.2 thread elsewhere?

mokibrabrant 03-05-2015 04:50 PM

I don't think there's a real need. I think this thread died when the "seller" became all to silent in the face of shall we say a rather lackluster reception to his purpose.............I feel no guilt. Might as well have fun...........No one is watching:)

claydbal 03-05-2015 05:50 PM

rather lackluster is the understatement of the year MOKI!

crowcreekcabin 03-10-2015 05:27 PM

You all don't need to buy it...

If 20K is too much... Let silence speak...
If somebody buys it... well more power to him.

Don't chase the dude off... No making you guys happy...

mokibrabrant 03-10-2015 05:32 PM

Ain't nobody chasing anyone: It's America. He has the right to ask anything he wants for his Rig. And on the same hand each of us has the right to express ourselves. As has been done here. With virtually every comment prefaced with the intent of the writer to not do exactly what you suggest we have done.

If he has a quibble with it. He has yet to express it. That you have a quibble with it is really irrelevant. And yes there is a way to "make you guys happy".
And that way is clearly not to tell me that I can't be made happy.

crowcreekcabin 03-10-2015 06:17 PM

I was out of line with the "make you happy" comment.
Cruising 80 in a mid-engine Crown will obviously do the trick!!


That does sound Fantastic...

mokibrabrant 03-10-2015 07:06 PM

You weren't out of line with the "make you happy" remark. Not as far as i'm concerned. i'll tell you what though. Had the shoe been on the other foot. And it was my bus. i would take the observations of others on their face. Or attempt to justify or defend my ask. Or i would thank the board and maybe make some adjustments to my expectations. i think, though it hurts, that in the purist light that was the end game of the seemingly pointed critique offered by myself and others. That it is all met with silence may say more than anything any of us could say...............

And yes cruising at 80 is a good thing. Doing so quietly with just the faint hum of that Cummins. Priceless.............

The Kents 03-10-2015 08:10 PM

Honestly, I tried to contact him early on about this bus and it was total silence.
While not at the price point he is asking I am interested in a set up like this and would have liked to see if he was willing to play ball.
Ahh well.

mokibrabrant 03-10-2015 09:37 PM

Those kind of dollar a whole new world open up..............especially this year. With the weather east of the Rockies being what it has been and the freeze out in the East since day one: There is a glut of Coaches of every description on the Market right now................all in various states of build................There are some good vehicles out there right now: In the Schoolie department a couple of Thomas West Coasters with 8.3 Liter Cummins and basement space went for a bit more than 3K I came close to snagging one of those. They would have been a great platform: My understanding is that the Thomas West Coaster was specifically designed to compete with Crown and had a better build quality than the Saf-T-Liner or the MVP..............surely the departure from the 3208 had to be an improvement...........Would have been a very solid platform to do the Schoolie thing. And be hard pressed to do much better than that getting in there at 3K

The Kents 03-10-2015 09:52 PM

Being in Denver I must be missing the source for all these good deals.
I am not 100% set on a skoolie, though I do like the clearance. I looked very seriously for a bus about 4 years ago an ended up not buying. I was so close to buying an MCI I could taste it but ended up passing. Lucky break too as it was sold buy the unlucky new owner for scrap about 2 months later when it broke down 20 miles out of town.
Life then moved on so I have just kept a toe in the water.
Back in the somewhat serious mode now. I don't mind the idea of building a bus out, but frankly I don't need another project. I would rather buy something close to done and modify as needed.

mokibrabrant 03-10-2015 10:25 PM

There are a lot of nice buses out there right now...............I avoid the MCI of any derivation unless they are retrofitted with new or very recently rebuilt engines and do not drop fluids.............those where air bags have been replaced and look at the minimum of the 6V92TA fresh or rebuilt................and a 10 speed and they must be perfectly straight and they must have Alcoa's. If I see stainless simulators flags go up............There are some really sweet buses out there right now: I have a fetish for only two axles and 35 feet is my max..............but I look a them all.........I've always wanted a 5(c) with the 6V92........I like the 5 (c) because it has the 9 cap.......I have tried for nearly two years to buy the Sky view that they have at Northwest Bus Sales. It's very cool. But the engine will need to be replaced as it drops oil and has a bad rear engine seal and they will not budge on their price.................Though two years ago it was at 18K............and it's now at 15.............it's so funny cause two years ago i offered them 14 for it..........and now as my education has progressed I won't go above 12..........But there are some very very nice MCI's out there that are seated or are shells without all the walls and ceilings torn out............a couple in the 7500 dollar range with the 8V92T...........

lanzaroto 03-13-2015 02:56 PM

Still available?
 
Hi, this bus is still available?

mokibrabrant 03-13-2015 03:20 PM

Is what bus still available Lanzaroto...........?????

lanzaroto 03-13-2015 03:25 PM

valhalla
 
The valhalla bus. Sorry;) new in the forum and lost in buses.
Iīm looking for a converted skoolie to buy

mokibrabrant 03-13-2015 03:33 PM

Haven't heard from the "seller" of that bus for a couple weeks. As you can see we've totally co-opted that thread. Not in disdain or disrespect. Simply because there has never been any follow up.............You'd probably have to get back to the first page of the thread to make contact with him...........check out his bus and negotiate him down to about 5K............LOL :)

lanzaroto 03-13-2015 03:49 PM

hahaha Yeah Iīve read the general opinions, very valuable for me, a complete ignorant.
Thanks for replying. And very interesting your price suggestion.
I will keep looking for new bus arrivals to buy. I arrive to the states in a week still no bus on the horizon and a little stressed, to be honest. But this is part of the skoolie adventure "Am I blessed for the Skoolie God, or maybe Iīm not pure enough to get it";)

mokibrabrant 03-13-2015 03:56 PM

Do you want a completed conversion or are you looking for a shell? What's your intention to full time or just have a mobile living quarters and shelter from the storm?

lanzaroto 03-13-2015 04:30 PM

A shell is not an option for me. I only have three months to visit the states and there is no time for make a conversion for myself, so Iīm looking for something already converted, water tanks-shower, electric basic stuff, a bed and a not junk engine would be paradise for me. A place to sleep in national parks, in BLMs and get 4 days of autonomy or so. Then I can cross mexico or canada and follow making improvements in the bus with no hurry.
Everybody recommends me an old RV with all the installation done and maybe I have no other option, but...I donīt want an RV. I really want a skoolie :) skoolie has personality and fun, so I keep trying

mokibrabrant 03-13-2015 05:03 PM

Schoolie or a Bus? In other words does it have to be a skoolie and what's your budget................

lanzaroto 03-13-2015 06:28 PM

uhm...I donīt know if I follow you. You mean converted skoolie or another converted bus as a greyhound or MCI? I prefer skoolie and with not covered windows if it is possible (I will probably regret in arizona in summer, but now I prefer keep the windows)
My idea is a converted skoolie, no more than 30ft but I have no preferences (or knowledge) about models, noses, engines...I think I will need to get what is in the market. Something around 8k or 10k would be fine, and I need to keep extra budget for surprise mechanic issues. I would like my bus doesnīt die in the first six months.

lanzaroto 03-13-2015 06:37 PM

wow mokibrabrant. Iīve seen your facebook Crown video. What an amaizing piece of art
hahaha beautiful, but I think that kind of bus exceed a lot my budget.
I wouldnīt have complains driving a bus like that :)

mokibrabrant 03-13-2015 07:09 PM

I'm sure you wouldn't but I am aware of a Crown for sale that hasn't been fully converted it's very very nice.................and within your budget. And you won't have to budget anything for future repairs and if so nothing significant or Major like trans or engine etc.............PM me I'll shoot you a few photo's............it won't be around long I assure you: PM me and I'll send along a couple shots.......or just hit up mokibrabrant@aol.com

markjacksom 03-24-2015 01:09 PM

Hey there Valhalla. I w a s hoping you could help with some insurance/registration information. I live very near you (in va) and am having difficulties. We have a bus and can't find insurance/get it titled as rv. How did you achieve these step when constructing Valhalla? Thanks for any info.

thecrabshomestead 03-25-2015 12:24 PM

I just spoke to our insurance company (USAA) and they do not cover any school bus (converted or not). I live in Texas, but this is a rule across the nation for this company. They did give me RV Insurance Online Quote | Explorer RV to try to find someone. Also I read on another forum someone used Farm Bureau/State FArm/FArmers insurance...I can't remember but it had farm in the name. I hoe this helps as we are about to buy or bus too...but want to get the insurance Q's answered. I don't really care if something happens to the bus b/c we can fix it or whatever..i am just worried about getting in a wreck and hurting someone else. But they don't provide any liability for skoolies or any transit bus converted, unless it is converted through a rv manufacturer..but what fun would that be? good luck in your search!


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