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brentag 05-17-2006 03:01 PM

Generator brands
 
I'm looking for a new or gently used generator for my new skoolie (YEA!) and would like your opinions. To keep it simple, I'll spare the details of what I need and will keep it to the brand. That and I'm open to gas or LP (diesel seems too expensive, although I'd like it to come out of the same diesel fuel tank).

Thanks all!

Steve 05-17-2006 03:26 PM

I had a Generac generator, pretty quiet and cheap. Produces very nice and clean power. I would set it under the bus usually next to the wheel and this got rid of most of the noise it did make.

If I were to buy a new one I would get a Honday EU series. Although they do not (to my knowledge) produce a pure sine wave but a square wave signal. These generators are very very quiet and for me that is a huge selling point.

lapeer20m 05-18-2006 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve
I had a Generac generator, pretty quiet and cheap. Produces very nice and clean power. I would set it under the bus usually next to the wheel and this got rid of most of the noise it did make.

If I were to buy a new one I would get a Honday EU series. Although they do not (to my knowledge) produce a pure sine wave but a square wave signal. These generators are very very quiet and for me that is a huge selling point.

Actually, i believe they are a pure sine wave...

"Honda inverter technology provides a pure sine wave allowing computers and other sensitive testing equipment to be run with confidence "

"Honda boasts a sine wave equal to or better than the current from your household power.
"

here's the link if you want to read the entire thing...

http://www.hayesequipment.com/wholesale/eu2000i.htm

lapeer20m 05-18-2006 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyaustintx
I'm looking at some Coleman 6250's ...any body know how loud they are .

I have that geni. It was all i could afford at the time, and i used it until i upgraded to the Honda EU2000. Mine has the over head valve briggs intek. I've been very impressed with it for a briggs motor. It starts almost everytime on the first pull. It's noisy, but not intollerable. consumes fuel @ 0.5 gallons per hour. That's $1.50 per hour with today gas prices. It's heavy! You can move it by yourself if you have too...but it's a lot more fun with 2 people. Reduces the chances of someone stealing it! I occasionally ran the 220 volt heater for my jacuzzi with the geni....The jacuzzi was rated for a 50 amp circuit, so the geni was well abused and still continues to run today.

Over the lifetime of the two generators, you would spend more than the difference in price on fuel....and you'd way rather have the honda eu. It's quiet, portable, and extremely fuel efficient.

Honda EU price: $900
Coleman 6200 price: $400

375 hours run time @ 15 hours/gallon = $70

375 hours run time @ 0.5 gph = $562

assuming $300/gallon

375 hours = 16 days of run time. As an example, i let my honda eu run for 11 or 12 days straight while at burningman 05.

just my $0.02

i am obviously a huge fan of the honda

brentag 05-18-2006 12:56 PM

You guys are great. Especially with this being my first conversion, I'm reading every word you post. And lapeer, I've been thinking about your Burning Man comment on another thread often since I read it.

Since this is a tailgating vehicle, I think the generator is a necessity. I've been looking in the Northern Tool & Equip catalog and see some nice options for permanent mounts in the generator section. The Honda's that are there are:

4000 W = $2499
6000 W = $2899

I know I'll need a lot of power (haven't figured it out completely yet), but these prices are pretty steep. Your point on fuel consumption paying for the difference is solid though. And I know there's no comparison with the Honda mowers I've used. Easy start EVERY time. One pull.

I've wanted a diesel so I could tap it into the main tank, but the prices seem a LOT higher. in the last few days I've been thinking about just adding a seperate gas tank near the generator instead...

Keep your thoughts coming on this, if you have some. Thanks all.

lapeer20m 05-18-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brentag
I know I'll need a lot of power (haven't figured it out completely yet), .

what kinds of appliances will you be running?

At BM I ran a dorm fridge, a small jacuzzi pump, hundreds of feet of rope lighting, a dozen or so 4 foot florescents, 4 2 foot florescent blacklights, a 40 amp battery charger (on occasion), a peavey powered mixer running a pair of peavey cabinet speakers, and a few other miscelanious things. All of this stuff ran just fine off of my 2,000 watt inverter, or the generator when batteries were running low.

What more do you plan to run for tailgaiting?

Certianly a coffee maker, or electric griddle would consume lots of power while they were being used...or Air an air conditioner.

honda also makes a 3K watt EU series geni that does 110/220 volts.

Steve 05-18-2006 01:46 PM

I second what Jason said, I have NO generator and I mostly use my bus for tailgating. I run two dorm fridges, fans, two tvs, microwave, and a 300 W stereo amp power two 15" and two 8" subs. I use a 3000W inveter and my battery bank lasts all day. If I lend my power to a second bus and start to run out I can just start up the engine are recharge.

My battery bank is currently 8 batteries producing around 1200 AmpHrs

Steve 05-18-2006 03:53 PM

jimmyaustintx, I have an AC unit in my bus and it works great running when driving around but when parked I can only run it for a 3 or four hours.

If you are planning on using AC when parked AND not on shore power you will want a generator as they take a lot of power.

A swamp cooler on the other hand will work just fine for a very long time on batteries and a inverter.

brentag 05-18-2006 04:32 PM

Thanks for the help with this. I'm new to this stuff.

I plan to run:

1 roof-top AC (13,500 - 15,000 BTU)
2 exterior speakers (Yamaha 15" sub with 2" horns)
QSC 2450 AMP
6 Channel soundboard
DVD/CD Player
Internal speakers
2 Flat screens (One 32", and a smaller one later)
DVR
In-motion satellite dish (ultimately)
Satellite receiver
Interior lights
Maybe some Chinese lanterns or something at night... :)

Main thing is that the CD, TV and AC will run constantly and Texas in Sept is a beast (i.e., 95-105 F in full sun). What do ya'll think? Obviously, it would be great to not have to spend a ton on a generator if a smaller one can keep the batteries charged.

THANKS!

the_experience03 05-18-2006 05:42 PM

The cd player, tv, and even the amp won't draw THAT much, especially if you use a 12 volt amp instead of a 120 volt model (no loss due to inverter). I would assume you still plan on having a battery bank and inverter since having the gennie running all the time (like at 3:00am) is not feasible and you will still want to be able to have the lights, etc on. Do yourself a favor and look at the placard on the back of all your appliances. It will give the draw in amps at 120 volts that the device has. Remember that things with motors often will have 3 times that load when they start. Get an idea how many amps will be drawn at any given time since not all the items will be running. Multiply by 120 to get the number of watts....then multiply by a figure....say 1.25 to give yourself 25% breathing room. That's the size gennie you'll be needing. It might make you think twice about stuff like that huge AC. 22 windows down costs you nothing in money or energy consumption. A white roof (especially with a deck over it) will be cheap protection against the sun. A smaller entertainment system will likely suffice, etc etc etc.....


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