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ourmefa 01-27-2017 07:17 PM

Fire supression in our skoolie
 
I have been reading up on safety related items and one question I have is regarding install of a fire supression system for the interior of the bus?

Has anyone done this? Any recommendations for type of extinguisher system I should be looking for?

Carytowncat 01-27-2017 08:06 PM

Hi,

I have a wood stove and also have 5 fire extinguishers. better safe than sorry.
Good luck!

superdave 01-27-2017 08:52 PM

get one of them big tanks of co2 and mount it by the door. in case of fire just open the valve and shut the door behind you

Carytowncat 01-27-2017 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by superdave (Post 181910)
get one of them big tanks of co2 and mount it by the door. in case of fire just open the valve and shut the door behind you

Thats an awesome idea! :)

ourmefa 01-28-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by superdave (Post 181910)
get one of them big tanks of co2 and mount it by the door. in case of fire just open the valve and shut the door behind you

This is actually exactly what I am looking at! I found this system that is ingenious! It is just a tube that is heat sensitive. If it heats, it ruptures and releases CO2 into the space where it is running. I could run lines of this in areas that are highly suspect such as the engine compartment, along fuel lines and inside the bus where electricals are stored or cooking is done.

I have reached out to the company to get more information.

As a secondary option, there are systems like BlazeCut that are affordable and easy to install.

Dapplecreek 01-28-2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ourmefa (Post 181987)
... and releases CO2 into the space where it is running. ... inside the bus where electricals are stored or cooking is done. ...

Um... I would suggest some good smoke alarms and a pull-rope or some such as the last person exits. As I read it, you're describing an automated system which would kill all occupants if it malfunctioned. Especially while driving or at night you would likely not realize the problem until you passed out; if you did and another family member were still in the bus you would be highly likely to go back in to rescue him or her... and be overcome yourself. Please think this through carefully...

ourmefa 01-28-2017 06:06 PM

I should have noted that this would be in addition to CO detectors and smoke alarm system, which will be hard wired to certain safety mechanics such as windows/doors be unlocked automatically (which of course open manually as well). The CO2 supression will primarily be for enclosed areas such as the engine compartment and battery banks/electrical systems. The secondary systems such as CO2 world not activate until well after other systems have alerted to an issue and the fire has grown enough to melt the tubing. There are probably secondary safety mechanisms that can be used to ensure the fire supression does not go off unless certain criteria are met, such as the smoke detection alerting. There will be active smoke/co detection every three feet or so inside the bus. I am using a zwave home automation controller for integration and have most of the system that I will have in the bus, setup in my home. Each smoke detector acts as a repeater.

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Dapplecreek 01-28-2017 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ourmefa (Post 182032)
I should have noted ...

Cool. I just didn't want to read a 'good news - bad news' post about a bus that didn't burn. (We want to keep you and your family around.)

Dixie Bushcraft 07-12-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ourmefa (Post 181877)
I have been reading up on safety related items and one question I have is regarding install of a fire supression system for the interior of the bus?

Has anyone done this? Any recommendations for type of extinguisher system I should be looking for?

"ABC" type, 5 pound size or larger.
Maybe a HALON for near your stove.

I would get Three (3). They don't go as far as you'd think.
One by driver, one in outside compartment (or near stove inside), and one in "bedroom" area.

Check at your local "fire extinguisher service" services and you might find a couple used that are the size you see on fuel islands at a reasonable price.

Cheap insurance for sure.

Biscuitsjam 02-18-2018 11:57 PM

Halon works by chemically disrupting the chemical reactions of fire. It is typically either handheld or mounted in a high-pressure bottle attached to a sensor. It is extremely effective, leaves no residue, is not toxic and doesnt damage sensitive equipment.

Unfortunately, halon is a CFC and no new halon has been produced since 1994. What's out there is recycled and becoming increasingly expensive ($150/lb). There are numerous replacements out there, but none are more than 70% as effective as halon.

I looked for other "clean gas" but it was also outrageous. The more affordable stuff seems to be the chemical powders (make a mess) and the inert gases (displace oxygen).


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