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Ernst 05-16-2008 04:23 PM

Blue Bird - lots of questions
 
Hello,

First, let me introduce myself: I'm Ernst, Dutch, but living in Belgium. The same goes for my wife Sylvia (but the name). We have been travelling all over Europe with self converted vehicles, first a Mercedes 608 van (http://www.sittig.nl/608.htm), then a Mercedes 817 truck (http://www.sittig.nl/817.htm) and now we've just bought a short Blue Bird (WB 174") school bus to convert into a motorhome. It has been in use by the American military, but apparently it's been sitting in a depot most of the time, because it is in very good shape and it's done only 39,000 km (23,076 mi).

http://www.sittig.nl/images/bird1.jpg

Yesterday we picked it up in Germany and I drove it home without any difficulty. But... I am completely new to American buses (and the bus-lingo) and yesterday's trip gave me quite some questions:

1 - According to the VIN the vehicle should be a TC2000. The German documents state TCFE4000 and the production order states TCFE3000. What exactly is the difference?

2 - On the ceiling, just in front of the rear (emergency exit) window is a red light which is always on. What is the meaning of that? How can I switch it off?

3 - What it the normal way of dipping the head lights? There is a switch near my left foot, like dip switches used to look like, but pressing it doesn't make any difference.

4 - The lights are on as soon as the engine is running. Is this normal? Or is there an easy way to change this setting (I can modify the wiring myself, but there is plenty of work to do as it is, so if there is a standard solution that I am not aware of...)

5 - On my left hand there is a push button marked "BRK OVERRIDE". What is the meaning of this?

6 - On my left hand there is a pull switch marked "HTR PUMP". What is the meaning of this?

7 - What are CL LAMPS?

8 - We have a combined instrument to indicate sequentially: fuel level, battery voltage, oil pressure and engine temperature. While driving the temperature needle hardly came loose from the left side. Is this normal?

9 - With the bus came two pieces of canvas that obviously fit the front air inlet. From which temperature it is advised to close the front?

10 - Is there somewhere a driver's manual and/or a workshop manual available as PDF?

I already have found some very useful tips for the coming conversion on this forum! I'll post the major steps in our project here as well.
Sorry I am such a curious person :shock: Thanks a lot in advance for any response!

lapeer20m 05-19-2008 02:27 AM

Re: Blue Bird - lots of questions
 
i would definitely put that into the "city bus" category.

as for the headlight thing....my bluebird "citybird" has 3 identical switches on the floor. 2 of them are for the turn signals...right/left. the 3rd switch controlls the bright/dim head lights. if your bus has a day/nite switch somewhere, this might be required to be in the "night" mode before your high beams will work.

the "brake override" switch....i immagine that when the doors are opened, or the air suspension system is lowered if there is one the bus will not drive unless you use this switch. just a guess

i wonder if "cl lamps" might be your parking/running lights? I have no idea what "cl" stands for.

Ernst 05-19-2008 03:18 PM

Re: Blue Bird - lots of questions
 
Thanks for the information. I am (slowly) getting the picture...
The day after tomorrow I'll see what's wrong with the foot switch. Now we are in Antwerp with the Mercedes RV. Our seminar coincided with a railway strike, so we are sleeping on a big parking lot where RVs are allowed and we take a local bus to the university. We're very happy with our internet via satellite. Without it I couldn't have written this post :shock:

@Bender
The language is Dutch. I'm sorry I so far only translated only some pages into English. In case you want the translation of any particular word or sentence, just send me a PM. And yes, electricity is a kind of hobby :D

oldog12 05-19-2008 11:53 PM

Re: Blue Bird - lots of questions
 
cl......clearance lights?????

Ernst 05-20-2008 01:38 AM

Re: Blue Bird - lots of questions
 
cl......clearance lights?????

Thanks. That's what Jimmy suggested, too. So I suppose it's that.
My problem is that I'm reasonably familiar with vehicles but don't know the matching technical English words. I'll try to learn....

lapeer20m 05-21-2008 09:34 PM

Re: Blue Bird - lots of questions
 
i hand out with lots of people from other countries when i go to burningman, and it's always very interesting to me that even though we all speak "english" there is british english, american english, australian english, etc.

this one guy from new zealand was asking me about a "chilly bin" and i had no idea what he was talking about...not to mention the accent. when i questioned him about what he meant he said "ya know, an "esky?" i still had no idea what he was talking about until he walked over and pointed at my cooler. esky is short for eskimo.

a british guy was complaining to me that almost everything at home depot had a different name in america than it does in england which makes finding things pretty difficult.

so i understand how you must feel being in a different country and having all those switches labeled in american words.

Ernst 05-24-2008 05:56 AM

Re: Blue Bird - lots of questions
 
so i understand how you must feel being in a different country and having all those switches labeled in american words.

That's what makes a forum like Skoolie.net so useful for me!
I lived in New Zealand as a sparkie (electrician) in the late '70s and found out the big gap between Kiwi-English and the British English, which we are taught in school :o

oldog12 05-24-2008 05:38 PM

Re: Blue Bird - lots of questions
 
Wasn't it Winston Churchill that said America and England were two nations separated by a common language....

RausyRaus 10-18-2017 08:06 PM

Need help as well
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernst (Post 22083)
Hello,

First, let me introduce myself: I'm Ernst, Dutch, but living in Belgium. The same goes for my wife Sylvia (but the name). We have been travelling all over Europe with self converted vehicles, first a Mercedes 608 van (http://www.sittig.nl/608.htm), then a Mercedes 817 truck (http://www.sittig.nl/817.htm) and now we've just bought a short Blue Bird (WB 174") school bus to convert into a motorhome. It has been in use by the American military, but apparently it's been sitting in a depot most of the time, because it is in very good shape and it's done only 39,000 km (23,076 mi).

http://www.sittig.nl/images/bird1.jpg

Yesterday we picked it up in Germany and I drove it home without any difficulty. But... I am completely new to American buses (and the bus-lingo) and yesterday's trip gave me quite some questions:

1 - According to the VIN the vehicle should be a TC2000. The German documents state TCFE4000 and the production order states TCFE3000. What exactly is the difference?

2 - On the ceiling, just in front of the rear (emergency exit) window is a red light which is always on. What is the meaning of that? How can I switch it off?

3 - What it the normal way of dipping the head lights? There is a switch near my left foot, like dip switches used to look like, but pressing it doesn't make any difference.

4 - The lights are on as soon as the engine is running. Is this normal? Or is there an easy way to change this setting (I can modify the wiring myself, but there is plenty of work to do as it is, so if there is a standard solution that I am not aware of...)

5 - On my left hand there is a push button marked "BRK OVERRIDE". What is the meaning of this?

6 - On my left hand there is a pull switch marked "HTR PUMP". What is the meaning of this?

7 - What are CL LAMPS?

8 - We have a combined instrument to indicate sequentially: fuel level, battery voltage, oil pressure and engine temperature. While driving the temperature needle hardly came loose from the left side. Is this normal?

9 - With the bus came two pieces of canvas that obviously fit the front air inlet. From which temperature it is advised to close the front?

10 - Is there somewhere a driver's manual and/or a workshop manual available as PDF?

I already have found some very useful tips for the coming conversion on this forum! I'll post the major steps in our project here as well.
Sorry I am such a curious person :shock: Thanks a lot in advance for any response!


Hey we read your questions and actually also had questions 5&6 and wondered if you had found the answers?? Let me know! Thanks

12equiem 10-19-2017 01:00 AM

i wouldnt worry about covering the inlet until it gets to be around or below -20. In my part of canada we dont usually do it until -30. we do it to help keep the heat in the engine bay and help it run smoother. also so we might get a few extra degrees in the cab in whch to keep warmer with.



what do you mean by dipping the headlights?

most vehicles in canada are equipped with mandatory daytime running lights as far as i know. theres a way to disconnect them through the wiring and devices but i dont know how.


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