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Tango 04-01-2012 01:39 AM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
Howdy All --- been a while since I made any progress on the shorty but finally got a break and put in about a week and a half on a variety of projects. I now have the skin off both sides from the upper rails down and have been working on hanging a couple of fairly large tanks. One is an aluminum 44 gallon fuel tank to replace the 18 g original and the other is a 44 g black/gray tank. Fabbing the hangers for the fuel tank has been a bear. Since there will be over 350 pounds of diesel in it, it needed very solid mounts. Made 3' spacers for it to butt against on top and have 6-2"square mounts welded in place around the sides that the bottom plate & straps will bolt to. There will be fuel-proof rubber insulation all around. Here's a couple of qwik pix...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/6...a7604a613d.jpg
The new (to me) aluminum tank positioned inside the hangers I just made & welded in place

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6...c99e8df0b5.jpg
On the drivers side, I now have the skin cut away and the black/gray tank is being positioned (hard to see, but it's there...really it is)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/6...3340010522.jpg
...and I have just started breaking down the front clip. Removed the headlamp buckets and lower grill panel and I am now working on removing (mostly breaking off) the bolts & screws that hold the fenders and grill components in place.

Hope to get back to working on the entry door next. Who knows, I might even live long enough to drive this thing someday.

sdwarf36 04-01-2012 10:16 AM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
Stong is good-but I think you might be getting carried away a bit. Look at any big truck on the road-they have 100 gal. tanks held on with 2 3" straps. Even my stock 55 gal tank is just held in with straps.
My plastic 52 gal veg tank is held up with 3 2" straps + some grade 5 threaded rod. Hasn't moved at all in 15k miles.

Tango 04-01-2012 01:25 PM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
sdwarf --- Ya...I definitely tend to get carried away with the over engineering thing (LOL)! But, if like you said "strong is good"...then stronger be better...right? I'm also adding a steel skid pad/rock guard to the bottom, but only because the aluminum is so thin I don't think it would stand up to very much abuse without puncturing. The holding tank won't get quite the same treatment, but only 'cause I figure if it springs a leak way out in the boonies, it won't prevent me from making it back to civilization where the fuel tank would. Might not be pleasant for anyone tailgating me, but then hey...maybe they will back off.

lornaschinske 04-01-2012 02:52 PM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango
... The holding tank won't get quite the same treatment, but only 'cause I figure if it springs a leak way out in the boonies, it won't prevent me from making it back to civilization where the fuel tank would. Might not be pleasant for anyone tailgating me, but then hey...maybe they will back off.

If the black tank springs a leak, you can be cited for dumping hazardous materials by the EPA. All you need to protect the black tank is a thick piece of plywood. Also add a sheet of insulation as well. Cooked Black tank isn't what you want. We had to put quite a bit of water in the Class C's 18 gallon black tank when we stopped in the Benbrook COE. Driving down the roads in July heat cooked all the liquid out of the black tank and we had to dump the solids out. That is why we plumbed the bathroom sink into our black tank on the bus, to keep the liquid on the high side. But only you can decide what you want to do. Some states are getting really serious about "leakage" others (like TN) don't do a whole lot. the following was in TN. With state budgets tightening up, some states may start issuing larger fees....

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f59/georg...lot-57013.html
Quote:

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f59/georg...tml#post671081
The person (or should I say "low life") that dumped his black tank in the Unicoi,Tn. Wal Mart lot last fall pleaded "GUILTY" in Unicoi General Sessions Court last Oct. His fine was $50.00 + court costs-(about $140) plus Clean up costs of $250.00.
This was the article in the Erwin Record (11/2009)
Quote:

Georgia man causes stink in Walmart lot
By Lesley Hughes
News Editor
lhughes@erwinrecord.net
When you gotta go, you gotta go.

A really big pooper scooper was needed last week to clean up a mess in Wal-Mart parking lot where a camper trailer owner dumped raw sewage.
Paul Russell Combs, 42, Vidalia, Ga., was charged with criminal littering and unlawful disposal of raw sewage after an off-duty dispatcher, Tony Jones, witnessed Combs dumping the raw sewage on the parking lot.
When Combs was finished, he “reached down and shut the valve on the trailer and then they left,” Unicoi County Sheriff’s Department Deputy Josh Randolph said.
The Unicoi Volunteer Fire Department, Emergency Management Director Ed Herndon and Lt. Jimmy Erwin came to the scene and helped clean up the mess.
Sheriff Kent Harris was disgusted that someone would dump sewage in a parking lot where people and children are present.
“There’s plenty of places with dumpsites, at campsites, campgrounds and some rest areas have them,” Harris said, “but not at Walmart’s parking lot.
“Walmart is good enough to let campers park in the parking lot to rest but to get someone like this who takes advantage of the kindness, it’s just not a good thing.”
He called it dangerous for people who unknowingly could have come across the sewage and thanked Jones for being alert to what was happening. “Imagine some kids getting out and jumping in water puddles,” he said, “only it’s not water. I can see my two boys doing it. If there is a water puddle around, they make a bee line for it to jump in it.”

Tango 04-02-2012 11:52 AM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
Hi Guys --- rest assured I was only funnin' regarding waste tank leaks. It will get similar protection to the fuel tank...just not quite as overboard on the mounts. It is a very heavy walled ABS unit that can likely take a great deal more punishment than its' aluminum fuel counterpart.

Bullwhacker007 04-02-2012 05:22 PM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
NOW I know where all those brown skid marks came from..

atcc77 04-15-2012 07:41 PM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullwhacker007
NOW I know where all those brown skid marks came from..

Those aren't skid marks.. its my monogram!

Tango 04-17-2012 12:39 AM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
Been taking care of countless "little things" here lately. My fuel tank is at the aluminum shop getting a new filler neck, return line for diesel and a drain plug. The black/gray tank is positioned but on hold until I find the right inlet & drain parts, then I can proceed with the mounting hardware. Meanwhile, I am considering a complete makeover for the rear wheel cutouts. The original never did look right and I can only imagine what a nightmare tire changing might have been beside the road. They were way small for such big tires and I'm guessing that jacking (or hoisting it) a good three feet would be the only way to get to them. Below are a few pix showing the OEM/Wayne wheel openings and a couple with the new cutout template in place. Will be tricky but I think an improvement. They may wind up a tad smaller, but not much. Mudflaps will be added in front as well as behind the tires. The final pic is a test for some window screens. That is SunBlocker screening, same as what I have at my studio. Cuts the heat by a good 25%. Will likely have to go with the next wider frame though, as these are flexing a bit too much in the middle for a good fit.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7039/7...1f8e98e850.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/7...fdd60874d3.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5319/6...42d20927c8.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7259/6...08b8e358b6.jpg

The good news is that...a year into this project, my two year build plan is still unchanged...
it's still only another two years.
:?

.

Diesel Dan 04-17-2012 09:54 PM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
I think your rear wheel cutouts will look much better than the skirts. Sure it won't be "authentic" but it's your bus man, and I think your approach will be an improvement. Of course I've never been a fan of wheel skirts on any vehicle. What's the point?!

ol trunt 04-17-2012 10:30 PM

Re: '46 Chevy Shorty
 
Your plan to make the rear fender openings makes good sense. Without one of the old school pneumatic lifts ( stuck in under the bumper and lifted the body then the axle) you would be hard pressed to get a tire off the way it was. Several other body manufactures of the time used the "tear drop" rear fender opening you have proposed and it will look just fine.

I'm curious to know how you plan to replace the side sheetmetal you have removed as I will be doing some of the same on my '35. How will you seal the floor and how will you support the lower edge of the skin? Will it be necessary to line the BW tank or will the Aluminum be ok? You are way ahead of me on your project--it looks real good


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