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Old 10-02-2018, 06:06 PM   #21
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If I get some time I'll fetch all of the documents, then try writing a script to parse the various models/years and maybe even options. Seems like it might be pretty involved, depending on how the PDFs are generated.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:44 PM   #22
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I have succeeded in creating a local mirror of the entire “seats” directory of the Thomas Built Portal, totalling 203,544 PDF files at ~31.5 GiB. The next step is to upload this mirror to a separate location, in order to reduce our community's bandwidth impact to the Thomas web site (admittedly probably not a lot but still not very considerate).

Many of the PDF files can be parsed. I will run some preliminary tests to determine how many of these files can be automatically categorized.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:52 PM   #23
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I have succeeded in creating a local mirror of the entire “seats” directory of the Thomas Built Portal, totalling 203,544 PDF files at ~31.5 GiB. The next step is to upload this mirror to a separate location, in order to reduce our community's bandwidth impact to the Thomas web site (admittedly probably not a lot but still not very considerate).



Many of the PDF files can be parsed. I will run some preliminary tests to determine how many of these files can be automatically categorized.


Once you get them organized I can host a mirror on our site.
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Old 11-04-2018, 09:13 PM   #24
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Thank you. That would be really helpful.

I am not going to organize a damn thing, however. 😉 We need to keep these files exactly the way Thomas has them on their portal. Otherwise, we'll run into problems updating the mirror.

What I would like to do is create a separate “directory” listing of the files' contents, so people can easily find what they are looking for. I'll report back after finishing a preliminary survey. There is a lot to wade through.
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:15 PM   #25
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I'm struggling to access the original link, has it been removed already or is that an issue on my end? I'm seeing the below message -

403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.

I'm not known for having great credentials.

I don't suppose anyone pulled the 1998 Saf T Liner MVP - The body ID is 680499943676-140HS.

Twigg - I know you mentioned that you have the same bus as us, any chance you got the blueprints?
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:17 PM   #26
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I'm struggling to access the original link, has it been removed already or is that an issue on my end? I'm seeing the below message -



403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.

You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.



I'm not known for having great credentials.



I don't suppose anyone pulled the 1998 Saf T Liner MVP - The body ID is 680499943676-140HS.



Twigg - I know you mentioned that you have the same bus as us, any chance you got the blueprints?


They probably saw the traffic and locked it down.
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:30 AM   #27
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They probably saw the traffic and locked it down.
That's my assumption as well. Not too surprising, since it probably wasn't intended to be available publicly.

Marceps, could you make a torrent of your mirror?
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Old 03-30-2019, 08:58 AM   #28
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Once you get them organized I can host a mirror on our site.
Howdy-I stumbled across this and was curious if you all had any luck storing all those files. I'd love to scour these plans for my bus! Sweet deck BTW.
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Old 08-19-2019, 12:43 PM   #29
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My ISP (Comcast/Xfinity) does not take kindly to torrent traffic. If the home gateway they installed detects any torrent activity, it will silently boot those devices off the network. I have previously used a VPN to circumvent this but do not currently have a subscription. (AT&T is almost as bad, by the way... and those two are the only ISPs in town.)

Sasquatters, are you able to provide credentials for uploading to your site? I'm down for port 21.

Here is what I have found:

Folders up to and including 160000 are not readily machine-parsable. Luckily, this only represents 9,264 of 203,544 PDF files.

Unluckily, the bulk of drawings that feature pre-2001 buses is contained in those early files. For example, I had to find my 1999 Sat-T-Liner (body type 130-H-S) by browsing by hand.

For 2001 and beyond, you can download the whole damn list now. Here are some stats:

Code:
Body Style by Popularity
________________________
  86842 TS
  31985 MS
  17172 YS
  15083 PS
  14677 S
   3444 YN
   2322 TN
   2248 LS
   1942 N
    754 MN
    603 PN
    146 LM
     36 HN
     15 C
     12 LA
      1 PSS
Code:
Complete Body Type by Popularity
________________________________
24597  051   MS
18528  341   TS
14703  311   TS
13464  340   TS
10329  310   TS
 9666  221   TS
 8905  141   YS
 7450  251   TS
 7091  041   MS
 5635  281   TS
 4291  140   YS
 3795 1418    S
 3652  191   TS
 3017  111   PS
 2679 1408    S
 2585 1318    S
 2407  101   PS
 2145  161   TS
 1989  120   PS
 1930  141   YN
 1851  130   YS
 1808  041   LS
 1796  081   PS
 1747  110   PS
 1718 1218    S
 1519  071   PS
 1270  170   TS
 1222  120   YS
  982  341   TN
  903  110   YS
  834 0918    S
  819  100   PS
  739 1118    S
  711 1308    S
  705  061   PS
  611  130   YN
  592  091   PS
  575  051   MN
  561 1418    N
  539 1208    S
  531 1018    S
  492  051   PS
  440  040   LS
  384  140   YN
  320 1318    N
  312  110   YN
  259 1108    N
  257  340   TN
  244 1118    N
  214  251   TN
  214  311   TN
  207  120   YN
  204 0908    N
  200 1008    S
  196 1308    N
  191  281   TN
  187 0908    S
  175  221   TN
  174  040   MS
  166  041   MN
  153 0918    N
  148  111   PN
  146  041   LM
  136  310   TN
  123  050   MS
  114  191   TN
  106  120   PN
   94 1108    S
   78  071   PN
   60  091   PN
   50  081   PN
   38  101   PN
   37 1110    S
   36  110   HN
   35  061   PN
   32  110   PN
   31  051   PN
   30  161   TN
   25  100   PN
   17 1010    S
   15 1418    C
   13  040   MN
   12  041   LA
    9  170   TN
    6 0810    S
    3 1405    N
    3 0510    S
    2 1415    N
    1  091  PSS
    1 1305    S
    1 1405    S
This is the shape of Thomas things to come on skoolie.net as these buses increasingly trickle down into auctions over the coming years. I wonder if anyone here will end up with that one-of-a-kind 091PSS...
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Old 08-19-2019, 04:56 PM   #30
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My ISP (Comcast/Xfinity) does not take kindly to torrent traffic. If the home gateway they installed detects any torrent activity, it will silently boot those devices off the network. I have previously used a VPN to circumvent this but do not currently have a subscription. (AT&T is almost as bad, by the way... and those two are the only ISPs in town.)

Sasquatters, are you able to provide credentials for uploading to your site? I'm down for port 21.

Here is what I have found:

Folders up to and including 160000 are not readily machine-parsable. Luckily, this only represents 9,264 of 203,544 PDF files.

Unluckily, the bulk of drawings that feature pre-2001 buses is contained in those early files. For example, I had to find my 1999 Sat-T-Liner (body type 130-H-S) by browsing by hand.

For 2001 and beyond, you can download the whole damn list now. Here are some stats:

Code:
Body Style by Popularity
________________________
  86842 TS
  31985 MS
  17172 YS
  15083 PS
  14677 S
   3444 YN
   2322 TN
   2248 LS
   1942 N
    754 MN
    603 PN
    146 LM
     36 HN
     15 C
     12 LA
      1 PSS
Code:
Complete Body Type by Popularity
________________________________
24597  051   MS
18528  341   TS
14703  311   TS
13464  340   TS
10329  310   TS
 9666  221   TS
 8905  141   YS
 7450  251   TS
 7091  041   MS
 5635  281   TS
 4291  140   YS
 3795 1418    S
 3652  191   TS
 3017  111   PS
 2679 1408    S
 2585 1318    S
 2407  101   PS
 2145  161   TS
 1989  120   PS
 1930  141   YN
 1851  130   YS
 1808  041   LS
 1796  081   PS
 1747  110   PS
 1718 1218    S
 1519  071   PS
 1270  170   TS
 1222  120   YS
  982  341   TN
  903  110   YS
  834 0918    S
  819  100   PS
  739 1118    S
  711 1308    S
  705  061   PS
  611  130   YN
  592  091   PS
  575  051   MN
  561 1418    N
  539 1208    S
  531 1018    S
  492  051   PS
  440  040   LS
  384  140   YN
  320 1318    N
  312  110   YN
  259 1108    N
  257  340   TN
  244 1118    N
  214  251   TN
  214  311   TN
  207  120   YN
  204 0908    N
  200 1008    S
  196 1308    N
  191  281   TN
  187 0908    S
  175  221   TN
  174  040   MS
  166  041   MN
  153 0918    N
  148  111   PN
  146  041   LM
  136  310   TN
  123  050   MS
  114  191   TN
  106  120   PN
   94 1108    S
   78  071   PN
   60  091   PN
   50  081   PN
   38  101   PN
   37 1110    S
   36  110   HN
   35  061   PN
   32  110   PN
   31  051   PN
   30  161   TN
   25  100   PN
   17 1010    S
   15 1418    C
   13  040   MN
   12  041   LA
    9  170   TN
    6 0810    S
    3 1405    N
    3 0510    S
    2 1415    N
    1  091  PSS
    1 1305    S
    1 1405    S
This is the shape of Thomas things to come on skoolie.net as these buses increasingly trickle down into auctions over the coming years. I wonder if anyone here will end up with that one-of-a-kind 091PSS...

How big is it? I would want them organized in a way that is easily accessible and easy to use for those looking for their model. We have a nice site and I wouldn't want to just throw up a zip and tell people to have fun.
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:08 PM   #31
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Here is the complete directory listing.

I agree you have a nice site. When you originally made the suggestion, I figured you were thinking of hosting these as a separate entity (for a number of reasons, actually).
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Good stuff. I’m finding Thomas/Daimler to be very nice about sharing info.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:51 AM   #33
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How big is it? I would want them organized in a way that is easily accessible and easy to use for those looking for their model. We have a nice site and I wouldn't want to just throw up a zip and tell people to have fun.
Dude that is a nice site! Is that your company imbue? If so is that a theme you built or are you using the wordpress api?
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:18 AM   #34
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For those of us less computer literate it will be quicker to take physical measurements of our buses...

Can anyone stick my nose on the 2002 Thomas Freightliner FS65 for 71 passengers?
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I have all of the pdf's downloaded but I can't match anything against my body id, chassis id, vin or number of windows to any single pdf file name. Am I missing something?
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Can anyone stick my nose on the 2002 Thomas Freightliner FS65 for 71 passengers?
Stick your nose here:


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I can’t seem to open the first link. Did anyone find a P3500 build link?
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Old 11-22-2019, 12:09 AM   #40
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I have uploaded the seat plans.

How to Get a Seat Plan
  • Consult the list (previously linked). If you find your body style, contact me.
  • If you don't find your body style, look here. Post details in this thread if you find it eventually, so the next person with your body style doesn't have to search randomly.
Forum posts are a horrible format for organizing such information, but it's all we have for now. If someone wants to start a publicly editable file (wiki article, Google Doc™ whatever...), please do.
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