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07-13-2018, 12:13 AM
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#201
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: California
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Thank goodness those are cats. I first thought you had nine monkeys.
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OMG...I laughed so hard on this one.
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07-13-2018, 07:08 AM
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#202
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwol97401
My class A RV is 8'6" out, 8'0" inside. Wide Bodies are the exception, not the rule. Bet on 7'6"
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Yours started life as a Class A or is a converted motor coach? Just wondering if there's a difference between the class A and Greyhound.
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07-14-2018, 12:50 PM
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#203
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Yours started life as a Class A or is a converted motor coach? Just wondering if there's a difference between the class A and Greyhound.
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Yeah mine started as a class A. I haven't the property to build out a skoolie yet so I'm biding my time and live full time in a store bought coach
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07-22-2018, 03:23 PM
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#204
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 39
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One of the ideas we are playing with.
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07-22-2018, 05:18 PM
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#205
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Here's what I'm working with. Decided to cut 6" out of the garage to accommodate more room up front. My bus is only 37', I'd like to have that extra window and 3' for build out, but wouldn't want to hauling that extra 3'. this think is big enough.
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07-23-2018, 07:19 AM
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#206
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Originally Posted by o1marc
Here's what I'm working with. Decided to cut 6" out of the garage to accommodate more room up front. My bus is only 37', I'd like to have that extra window and 3' for build out, but wouldn't want to hauling that extra 3'. this think is big enough.
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I hope so. That 3' would have kept your 6" in the garage. I just hope I don't run into too many places that don't allow 40'+.
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08-01-2018, 03:50 AM
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#207
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Iowa
Posts: 447
Year: 1989
Chassis: International
Engine: 9.L
Rated Cap: 64
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Ive spent 3-4yrs drawing up floor plans. But since im just getting my bus i feel as if better ideas will happen when we are stripping it out. Im not going to build with out a plan, but i feel right now those hundreds of floor plans are not going to work in real life.
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08-25-2018, 07:46 AM
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#208
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Savannah GA
Posts: 5
Year: 1995
Chassis: Chevrolet G30 Short Bus
Engine: 5.7L chevrolet 350
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfiredance
What a great idea!
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I plan to do the same thing. 3-D cardboard gives a real feel for
what you have.
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08-25-2018, 06:48 PM
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#209
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: TN.
Posts: 52
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B8000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 24
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All of you newbies need to change your priorities . First Get a bus. Try to get one that runs and every thing WORKS on it. Throw in a bed , cooler, Porta-pottie and some camping gear (coleman stove , Lantern and such . Take a week long trip. Longer if you can swing it. If you come back in love with it then by all means go for it. Remember you cant have every thing in a bus that will fit in a house. You can have every thing you need. Do Not spend five years planning and building . If I was healthy enough to build another one and travel I would be doing it not talking about it. I built my first one in 1975 in a 66 pas. 11 rows of seats, GMC With a 305 cu In. v6 gas moto and a4 speed Stick. I lived in it 8 years from Ca. to Fl. following Welding jobs. I loved it! I kicked my own a-- for selling it to save a failing marriage . I should have paid someone to take her. Now I use a short Ford Thomas F8000 for a daily driver because iv'e been in a wheelchair 11 years. I had Travel Trailers Boats and Harleys in between. but I still miss that GMC. My point is Do Not waste your healthy years trying to have SHOW bus. Get out there and DO IT. Keep the shiny side up!
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10-22-2018, 05:26 AM
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#210
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Rocky Mount, VA
Posts: 38
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I know, I know, obtain a bus first.
But I wanted to have something concrete to look at on paper for now. No measurements yet, I'll get on that next.
Living area separated from driver zone, because cats will be involved and I don't want one to hang out underfoot up there.
Pass through window behind the driver for the cushy copilot chair. Dutch door. The wall by the stairs will be thick enough for a recess with a flip down panel, to store the DVD player, router, and anything else too tempting not to try and steal.
(I'm in security, crimes of opportunity are everywhere)
Focussing more on work space here because we both craft and do art business. Galley type kitchen as neither of us are chefs =p
Seating area and the copilot space will be raised up over the wheelwells, with a storage drawer underneath for fabric.
Yes, that is a kotatsu. I built it so it is definitely coming with me. It'll be hinged so it can be raised against the wall if someone needs to sleep over. We can just lay out the futon mattress.
Wavy lines will be curtains (high enough off the floor to reduce cat temptation). I'm going for a more open floor plan if I can manage it.
Depending on the location of the side exit the kitchen/bath and workspaces can be switched. You're supposed to keep plumbing all on the same side anyway, aren't you?
I'd like to build the beds out from the engine hump in the back if possible and use the hump itself as a table, but I don't know the dimensions of those. Anyone who's had a Thomas RE happen to know that measurement offhand?
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10-22-2018, 10:20 AM
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#211
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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[QUOTE=Setsu-P;295512]Wavy lines will be curtains (high enough off the floor to reduce cat temptation). Unless you have legless cats, I'm guessing your curtains will only be 2 or 3 inches long!!
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Anyone who's had a Thomas RE happen to know that measurement offhand?
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Nope, but if you want the measurements from a Blue Bird, I can help you out.
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10-22-2018, 09:51 PM
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#212
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Rocky Mount, VA
Posts: 38
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Unless you have legless cats, I'm guessing your curtains will only be 2 or 3 inches long!!
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I'm going off of mine's behavior where it comes to venetian blinds. Raising the blinds up about 6" made them stop trying to paw the things out of the way so they could smear their little faces all over the window. Presumably a curtain will work the same way. In my experience, if you give them easy access, they're less likely to make trouble for the sake of attention. Or, mine are just lazy =p
best laid plans, right?
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Nope, but if you want the measurements from a Blue Bird, I can help you out.
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If the engine hump is the same size, that'd be perfect; at least it's something to go off of!
for the reply!
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10-23-2018, 08:24 AM
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#213
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsu-P
I'm going off of mine's behavior where it comes to venetian blinds. Raising the blinds up about 6" made them stop trying to paw the things out of the way so they could smear their little faces all over the window. Presumably a curtain will work the same way. In my experience, if you give them easy access, they're less likely to make trouble for the sake of attention. Or, mine are just lazy =p
best laid plans, right?
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Ah, ok. You're fine then. I was thinking they were climbers. Mine being 20 lbs each don't do a lot of climbing. They do the same as yours. My house has really deep window sills and they prefer to have the window open as well. They are fat enough they bent one of the curtain rods by sitting on the curtain.
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If the engine hump is the same size, that'd be perfect; at least it's something to go off of!
for the reply!
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<-- :Shrug: really needs to be added. I've no idea if it is different or not. I've never measured a Thomas.
So here's what I have. The * on the 19 1/2" is because I don't remember if the bench is 19 1/2" deep with or without the triangle.
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10-23-2018, 01:01 PM
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#214
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsu-P
Anyone who's had a Thomas RE happen to know that measurement offhand?
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I have a 2003 Saf-T-Liner (RE Transit style). Inside dimensions approx 30' long from engine to line, and 7.5' side to side.
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10-23-2018, 01:12 PM
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#215
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptSquid
I have a 2003 Saf-T-Liner (RE Transit style). Inside dimensions approx 30' long from engine to line, and 7.5' side to side.
From profile:Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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I smell fishes!!!My Blue Bird is also 84 pax. 40'2" bumper to bumper. It's approx 34' from the back of the driver's seat to the rear glass. 30' would be about right from seat to the start of the engine cover. Is that what you mean from "engine to line"?
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10-24-2018, 10:12 PM
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#216
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Rocky Mount, VA
Posts: 38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
<-- :Shrug: really needs to be added. I've no idea if it is different or not. I've never measured a Thomas.
So here's what I have. The * on the 19 1/2" is because I don't remember if the bench is 19 1/2" deep with or without the triangle.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptSquid
I have a 2003 Saf-T-Liner (RE Transit style). Inside dimensions approx 30' long from engine to line, and 7.5' side to side.
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Y'all are true princes among people!
one more question since I'm fleshing my floor plan out as a scale model (if you're feeling generous), how tall is that Thomas from bottom to top without accounting for the wheels?
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10-25-2018, 06:15 AM
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#217
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsu-P
Y'all are true princes among people!
one more question since I'm fleshing my floor plan out as a scale model (if you're feeling generous), how tall is that Thomas from bottom to top without accounting for the wheels?
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Best as I know Thomas and B.B. come in two heights 74" and 78" with 74" being the most common.
Caveat: I think mine is 74" with the plywood removed. I ripped all of the flooring out as well as the sheet metal ceiling and if I stand up straight, my head touches the ribs. I'm 6' 1 1/2"~2". With shoes (not boots) I still touch.
So, I chopped off the roof and raised it about 18". Still need to take a final measurement. Now standing flat footed I can just reach the ribs!!
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10-25-2018, 10:07 PM
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#218
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Rocky Mount, VA
Posts: 38
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Thanks again!
What is it, an inch, inch and a half between interior and exterior skin? Same for the difference between edges and center, or is that more like 2" on the inside?
Yeeaaah, I don't think my budget will allow for a roof-raisin'. But then I'm only 5'7" and my roommate is like 5 and change. Supertall visitors will just have to stoop and bear it =p
78" would probably be the city-transit bus ceiling height, I'm guessing. Not sure if I'm in the market for one of those since I believe they have even less ground clearance than the school models. I may or may not be dealing with bad-road PTSD after living where I am for five years.
Side note, I think I ran across your video while going down the YT bus conversion rabbit hole a while back. Love the humor
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10-26-2018, 01:23 AM
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#219
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
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My Bluebird must be a 74 inch one. With 1 inch polystyrene and 3/4 inch plywood on the floor I can walk through with an inch or two to spare. That's with my shoes on -- then I be 6 foot tall!
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10-29-2018, 06:26 AM
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#220
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsu-P
Thanks again!
What is it, an inch, inch and a half between interior and exterior skin? Same for the difference between edges and center, or is that more like 2" on the inside?
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So, the ribs of the windows look like this.
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Yeeaaah, I don't think my budget will allow for a roof-raisin'. But then I'm only 5'7" and my roommate is like 5 and change. Supertall visitors will just have to stoop and bear it =p
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No need then tho the extra space would help with cabinets and the like. 74" and 78" is in the center (not at the windows).
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78" would probably be the city-transit bus ceiling height, I'm guessing. Not sure if I'm in the market for one of those since I believe they have even less ground clearance than the school models. I may or may not be dealing with bad-road PTSD after living where I am for five years.
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No, I'm told the skoolies come in a 78" height. Motor coaches and city transits are altogether different.
Skoolies come in two flavors; conventional; (dog-nosed) and transit (flat nose). Transit is not to be confused with city buses.
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Side note, I think I ran across your video while going down the YT bus conversion rabbit hole a while back. Love the humor
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Cool, thx. I've got a couple and a bunch of bits and pieces that I still need to edit into another.
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