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10-29-2018, 06:28 AM
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#221
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bus-bro
My Bluebird must be a 74 inch one. With 1 inch polystyrene and 3/4 inch plywood on the floor I can walk through with an inch or two to spare. That's with my shoes on -- then I be 6 foot tall!
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Mine is 74" without the OEM 3/4" plywood floor, vinyl flooring and ceiling sheet metal. --- must be shorter than 6' me thinks.
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10-29-2018, 10:24 PM
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#222
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Rocky Mount, VA
Posts: 38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
the extra space would help with cabinets and the like.
Motor coaches and city transits are altogether different.
Skoolies come in two flavors; conventional; (dog-nosed) and transit (flat nose). Transit is not to be confused with city buses.
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Yeah, the overhead space is an option weighing on my mind, but...I was planning to use it for bookshelves anyway, and my library needs downsizing as it is. Sacrifices
So 'transit" in this case just means flat nose, that's a distinction I must have missed out on before. Good to know!
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10-30-2018, 06:39 AM
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#223
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsu-P
Yeah, the overhead space is an option weighing on my mind, but...I was planning to use it for bookshelves anyway, and my library needs downsizing as it is. Sacrifices
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My gf is in the same boat.
Quote:
So 'transit" in this case just means flat nose, that's a distinction I must have missed out on before. Good to know!
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Yeah, took me awhile to figure that out too. The skoolie transits are the ones to get. They have the storage lockers underneath. Used as field trip, band, activity buses. Some of the buses have pass-thru storage. Pass-thru from passenger side to driver side. Mine are pass-thru from one door to the other but not across the bus. No idea if there's terminology to cover that or not. Also don't know if any buses have dividers on the storage or not. Mine measure 24 tall x 24 deep x something like 60 long. Two doors, one compartment. I have one set per side. I'll probably add a second set. Can't have too much lockable storage.
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10-30-2018, 05:07 PM
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#224
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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I mean from the engine cover (in the back) to the line up front where you're not supposed to stand in front thereof.
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10-31-2018, 06:28 AM
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#225
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Mine is 74" without the OEM 3/4" plywood floor, vinyl flooring and ceiling sheet metal. --- must be shorter than 6' me thinks.
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Found one of my earlier notes on my desk. Says 74 1/2" from floor to ceiling rib so that's bare metal to bare metal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptSquid
I mean from the engine cover (in the back) to the line up front where you're not supposed to stand in front thereof.
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Ak ok, that's about right then.
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12-18-2018, 06:48 PM
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#226
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Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 130
Chassis: GMC 3500 Thomas
Engine: 6.0 L GAS
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resource for floor plans
I saw elsewhere a link for thomas bus seats / floorplans but it's now offline.....but I stumbled across this....might help some folks
https://www.turtletop.com/product/it...ey/floor-plans
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01-01-2019, 12:19 AM
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#227
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 255
Year: 1997
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Vista 3600
Engine: DT466E / AT545
Rated Cap: 72
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A FEw SketchUp Florrplans
Based off of the TC2000, doing my best to figure out how to fit everything in such a relatively small space.
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01-01-2019, 08:49 AM
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#228
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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If your construction skills match your SketchUp skills...you should wind up with an excellent bus.
Never seen SketchUp look so good!
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01-02-2019, 10:54 AM
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#229
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geminusprime
Based off of the TC2000, doing my best to figure out how to fit everything in such a relatively small space.
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Nicely done but you're missing at least 5 windows. I only counted 8.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
If your construction skills match your SketchUp skills...you should wind up with an excellent bus.
Never seen SketchUp look so good!
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Dear god, I hope the opposite is NOT true. I couldn't get Sketch-Up to do a damn thing!!
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02-05-2019, 01:29 PM
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#230
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Keene NH
Posts: 33
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Corbeil
Chassis: GMC 3500 Cutaway
Engine: 4.8 V8
Rated Cap: 14 passengers
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4 Window Shorty Floor Plan
I have to say that after looking through the floor plans posted here that I am embarrassed to post mine! But here is a simple floor plan for a 4 window shorty as built out by the previous owner. Works great but only for 2 people, and I have to get the drivers seat to swivel.
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03-13-2019, 07:38 PM
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#231
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 1
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Here's a rough draft of my floor plan.
Here's a rough draft of my floor plan.
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03-14-2019, 08:10 AM
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#232
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djhobby
Here's a rough draft of my floor plan.
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Nice. I like the plans that make you zig zag thru the bus instead of a bowling alley. Not sure how practical they are for living or heating/cooling but still.
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03-15-2019, 02:35 PM
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#233
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Revised.
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03-24-2019, 10:15 PM
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#234
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Rocky Mount, VA
Posts: 38
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Is this with a roof raise? I see that overhead storage there...
Also, may I use the bare bones side and overheads as reference, for the measurements? It helps to be able to get a visual instead of just lists of numbers
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06-30-2019, 08:54 PM
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#235
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
I dunno if we allow that south of the border. I've seen plenty of single 53s. Plenty of twin but I don't think I've seen twin 53s. They are always shorter.
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They are called California Doubles they are popular out west but not further east as 2 53' doubles would be very difficult (not impossible) to maneuver.
On the eastern part of the double pup trailers are common they are double 24' trailers.
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06-30-2019, 09:19 PM
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#236
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R0adRa93
They are called California Doubles they are popular out west but not further east as 2 53' doubles would be very difficult (not impossible) to maneuver.
On the eastern part of the double pup trailers are common they are double 24' trailers.
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The semi trains can be as long as triples and are regulated to an overall length of 105'. I was quite surprised to see them for the first time. I know they are popular in Aus., where the longest one is 160' and runs 24/7
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07-01-2019, 04:34 AM
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#237
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Keene NH
Posts: 33
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Corbeil
Chassis: GMC 3500 Cutaway
Engine: 4.8 V8
Rated Cap: 14 passengers
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Fun to back up!
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08-22-2019, 11:15 AM
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#238
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 3
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Bracing the motorcycle?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dammitAndy
this is my idea anyway
The idea for this was to pull my motorcycle into the back and tie it down for a trip.
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This is a major concern for me as well.
I have a 2019 Indian Chieftain Darkhorse, It's long and heavy, how do you tie down your bike? I want to make sure it's very secure!
I'm looking at possibly doing a Transit bus since I'm 6'2" and never really fit in the school buses without making my head go crooked.
I may have the bike goes sideways directly in from the rear wheelchair access doors.
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10-11-2019, 12:58 PM
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#239
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11
Year: TBA
Coachwork: TBA
Chassis: TBA
Engine: TBA
Rated Cap: TBA
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Initial plans
Plan is for a RE 84 pax with Cummins ISC.
Looking for feedback and constructive criticism.
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10-11-2019, 01:52 PM
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#240
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joshmay88
This is a major concern for me as well.
I have a 2019 Indian Chieftain Darkhorse, It's long and heavy, how do you tie down your bike? I want to make sure it's very secure!
I'm looking at possibly doing a Transit bus since I'm 6'2" and never really fit in the school buses without making my head go crooked.
I may have the bike goes sideways directly in from the rear wheelchair access doors.
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I use a wheel chock in the front and use the holes in the chair rail for ratchet straps.
My 03 Kawasaki Vulcan is 8' long and will not fit sideways in the bus.
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