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04-30-2019, 05:17 PM
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#21
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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Pin striping is one thing. The reflective tape on my Brunhilde ranges from 1" to 3". Pin striping is dinky.
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04-30-2019, 06:06 PM
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#22
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: St. Charles County Missouri
Posts: 194
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 35
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It took off 1.5 inch wide letters very quickly with little effort
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04-30-2019, 07:06 PM
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#23
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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IDK if the letters were the same stuff as reflective tape. Its like reinforced aluminum foil stuck on with something extreme.
The black letters and numbers on the sides of school buses come off REAL quick with just a rubber wheel on a drill. The reflective tape takes hours.
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04-30-2019, 07:32 PM
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#24
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: St. Charles County Missouri
Posts: 194
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 35
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My letters had some metallic backing on them. All I am saying is for $16 it was work a try for me after hearing how long others were taking to remove some of the letters.
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04-30-2019, 09:32 PM
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#25
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 9
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT466e/3060
Rated Cap: 44
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Lettering and reflective tape are different animals. Lettering is a kitten. Reflective tape is a freaking BEAR!
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04-30-2019, 09:46 PM
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#26
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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One is DOT stuff and the other just vinyl lettering
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04-30-2019, 10:01 PM
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#27
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: St. Charles County Missouri
Posts: 194
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 35
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I did not have any reflective so I don't know if the eraser would work. I do know it does get pretty hot similar to a heat gun. I was just offering a harsh chemical free option
That may or may not work.
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04-30-2019, 10:12 PM
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#28
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 9
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT466e/3060
Rated Cap: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
One is DOT stuff and the other just vinyl lettering
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Yeah I get all that. I'm referencing the degree of difficulty in removing to two. Vinyl lettering came off in very short order and 'sticky' residue with a swipe of goo gone and a clean towel. The reflective tape has some kind of super bionic adhesive. The tape comes off with a heat gun and putty knife alright, but then theres the challenge of risidual gunk that takes forever. Got one side of the bus done tho...
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04-30-2019, 10:54 PM
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#29
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LesBoisBus
Yeah I get all that. I'm referencing the degree of difficulty in removing to two. Vinyl lettering came off in very short order and 'sticky' residue with a swipe of goo gone and a clean towel. The reflective tape has some kind of super bionic adhesive. The tape comes off with a heat gun and putty knife alright, but then theres the challenge of risidual gunk that takes forever. Got one side of the bus done tho...
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That's my point, the DOT has higher requirements to last longer than cheap vinyl sign material good for 4-5 years. The DOT tape is aluminum tape with a thick layer of reflective material on top and a not suppose to come off adhesive on the back. My big grinder makes quick work of it.
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04-30-2019, 11:15 PM
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#30
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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See my earlier post in this thread concerning the removal of the super-stick-glue. Contractor's Solvent really does work. Turns it into jelly.
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04-30-2019, 11:26 PM
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#31
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 9
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT466e/3060
Rated Cap: 44
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Thanks for the tip - big grinder it is!
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04-30-2019, 11:32 PM
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#32
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LesBoisBus
Thanks for the tip - big grinder it is!
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Turns it to dust, no messy clean up.
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04-30-2019, 11:33 PM
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#33
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 9
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT466e/3060
Rated Cap: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
See my earlier post in this thread concerning the removal of the super-stick-glue. Contractor's Solvent really does work. Turns it into jelly.
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Read your earlier post and the goo gone does same thing. The "jelly" just seems to smear everywhere. I'm gonna just grind this stuff off now I guess. Have to get her painted to keep my neighboors off my back about the yellow bus in the driveway.
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04-30-2019, 11:37 PM
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#34
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LesBoisBus
Read your earlier post and the goo gone does same thing. The "jelly" just seems to smear everywhere. I'm gonna just grind this stuff off now I guess. Have to get her painted to keep my neighboors off my back about the yellow bus in the driveway.
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I tried Goo Gone and you are right, it makes it smear all over. The only one that worked was Contractor's Solvent. Plus, it does not mar the surface.
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05-01-2019, 05:12 AM
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#35
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorzie
I did not have any reflective so I don't know if the eraser would work. I do know it does get pretty hot similar to a heat gun. I was just offering a harsh chemical free option
That may or may not work.
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I've de-stickered 5 buses and the rubber wheel will work on reflective tape. But its a ton of work. Hours.
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05-01-2019, 06:25 AM
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#36
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 109
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When I repainted my bus, I masked over the yellow reflective tape, then covered over with a gray reflective tape that matched my paint color. I like the added visibility while driving on the roads, and it isn't noticeable during daylight.
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05-01-2019, 12:52 PM
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#37
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Like E450S, I wanted the added visibillity at night. Luckily I found a roll of 3M school bus conspicuity tape to slather on the back of my toad--it matches the paint color perfectly! And now, thanks to this forum, I know exactly which chemicals to keep away from my beloved reflective tape.
Jack
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05-01-2019, 01:03 PM
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#38
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ol trunt
Like E450S, I wanted the added visibillity at night. Luckily I found a roll of 3M school bus conspicuity tape to slather on the back of my toad--it matches the paint color perfectly! And now, thanks to this forum, I know exactly which chemicals to keep away from my beloved reflective tape.
Jack
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is that an old Morris Major woody?
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05-01-2019, 01:34 PM
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#39
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Yup. 1959 Morris Minor Travellor with a 1989 Geo Tracker 4x4 chassis under it--still looks stock though.
Jack
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05-01-2019, 01:42 PM
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#40
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ol trunt
Yup. 1959 Morris Minor Travellor with a 1989 Geo Tracker 4x4 chassis under it--still looks stock though.
Jack
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GREAT resto - I missed on it being a Minor, I guess because of a lack of having something to compare the size to - when first married, I was just past my 20th birthday, my wife just past her 18th, we had a Morris Minor to buzz around in - lasted until we had two kids ( 11 months apart ) and somehow the Minor shrunk, so had to opt for something bigger - remember the Minor fondly, but not what I replaced it with --- good memories - do you have any full body pictures of it?
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