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Old 07-30-2019, 06:52 PM   #1
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The word today, Boys and Girls, in my best internet Mr. Rogers voice, is PREPERATION. Can you say that? P-R-E-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N. There you go, knew I could type that in 3 tries. In the 2 pictures posted, there is 40 hours of labor invested in the first picture to remove the tow hooks, deletter , remove all of the old lighting, remove all of the old lighting gaskets, make some plugs for the old lights, scuff it top to bottom with the top part working off an 8 foot ladder with a 3M pad , wipe down with goof off, tape off all 4 windows with recessed gaskets, tape off the bumper, tape off everything else including both sides and the top, re scuff, wipe down with goof off again, blow off with compressed air and be ready to wipe it down with acetone and spray it tomorrow, which will take all of an hour. Highly reccomend the 3 M eraser wheel for all of the lettering. It is very user friendly and did my whole bus. Painting it is assuredly the easiest part. This is not a typical example but more to illustrate how much time is neccessary in preperation to do a good job.
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Would be nice to see someone do a play by play of a REAL in depth paint job!
Ive seen enough rolled on house paint already!
Some kids came over once and were going to paint their bus. They jumped out after shutting it off and started slathering latex house paint all over it, bugs and all. Looked horrendous! They're now selling their sevices!
Excellent work, and it will totally be worth it, Mr Rivet!
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Would be nice to see someone do a play by play of a REAL in depth paint job!
Ive seen enough rolled on house paint already!
Some kids came over once and were going to paint their bus. They jumped out after shutting it off and started slathering latex house paint all over it, bugs and all. Looked horrendous! They're now selling their sevices!
Excellent work, and it will totally be worth it, Mr Rivet!
Thanks ECCB for the vote of confidence Very first truck was a 1940 Dodge painted in lime green latex AUUUUGH as someone might say. Wait until you see the new projector big rig head lites and the JW Seaker 279 tailites and a couple a dozen Big Rig Chrome clearance/ marker lites with a finale of 10 gracco 1000 clearance lights. Have waited for this part of the project for 2 years. Then back to the the dashboard of the analog digital gods! Best project ever!!!
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And they're making a living at such slap-dash work?!!
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Would be nice to see someone do a play by play of a REAL in depth paint job!
Ive seen enough rolled on house paint already!
Some kids came over once and were going to paint their bus. They jumped out after shutting it off and started slathering latex house paint all over it, bugs and all. Looked horrendous! They're now selling their sevices!
Excellent work, and it will totally be worth it, Mr Rivet!
I gotta update my resume...
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:53 PM   #5
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And they're making a living at such slap-dash work?!!I gotta update my resume...
Ha good luck with that You can embellish or hold in suspense on a resume, Pride in Workmanship cannot be merely turned on and off .
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That preference for perfection has bunged me over a time or few.
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Great post, and great work! Look forward to the update!

I know from limited experience on (much) smaller vehicles, even a 'rattle-can' paint job can produce surprising quality if you do rigorous prep, stick to the manufacturer's guidelines (on everything), and cure it properly.

I do NOT look forward to the prep work which is quickly approaching us on our shorty (thank God it's a shorty). Actually laying the paint down will be the end of a long & arduous road (and no, I won't be rattle-canning that lol).
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You spelled Preparation incorrectly Mr Rogers.
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Now that's comedy!
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What did he forget the H?
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Hey Revit Boy, looks good and your right on the money about the prep should take you 3 to 4 times longer to prep than to actually paint. I have been a refinisher in the auto body, aircraft, RV industry for well over 30 years and Painted everything from a Hercules aircraft RV, and Auto and the real work is in the prep. Painting/Refinishing is real easy actually because if the prep job is done right painting is a joy. Great Job by the way

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If you can show me how to post photos I can give you some painting photos that will provide information from Painting your wood stove to aluminum trim, the best paint is always the factory paint job so when I see people stripping paint from vehicles I wanna cry, factory paint as a base is fantastic, it has been applied with the proper sealers and etching agents to adhere for years and them someone wants to strip it is beyond me
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If you can show me how to post photos I can give you some painting photos that will provide information from Painting your wood stove to aluminum trim, the best paint is always the factory paint job so when I see people stripping paint from vehicles I wanna cry, factory paint as a base is fantastic, it has been applied with the proper sealers and etching agents to adhere for years and them someone wants to strip it is beyond me
I agree - I've been thinking of buying a $100 bus body and rob hat channels and body metal just because it's been pre-painted - a lot more priming and work is involved when trying to get new metal to finish up looking like metal that has been repainted over a properly prepared and finished base
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yes, Preparation as it is referred to in painting requires a Capitol 'P'
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Is that because doing it properly is like serving time for a capital crime..?
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If you can show me how to post photos I can give you some painting photos that will provide information from Painting your wood stove to aluminum trim, the best paint is always the factory paint job so when I see people stripping paint from vehicles I wanna cry, factory paint as a base is fantastic, it has been applied with the proper sealers and etching agents to adhere for years and them someone wants to strip it is beyond me

How about all the Ford, GM and Chrysler paints of the early 90's that failed so badly? Sure, if the factory paint is good, use it as a base but if it's not ....
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So since we're on the subject...

Do you need to know the existing paint chemistry (what type of paint it is) to match what you're putting over it, assuming you're just scuffing & cleaning is as opposed to going down to bare metal? And if so... how would you know?
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Hey Revit Boy, looks good and your right on the money about the prep should take you 3 to 4 times longer to prep than to actually paint. I have been a refinisher in the auto body, aircraft, RV industry for well over 30 years and Painted everything from a Hercules aircraft RV, and Auto and the real work is in the prep. Painting/Refinishing is real easy actually because if the prep job is done right painting is a joy. Great Job by the way

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So since we're on the subject...

Do you need to know the existing paint chemistry (what type of paint it is) to match what you're putting over it, assuming you're just scuffing & cleaning is as opposed to going down to bare metal? And if so... how would you know?
that's where primers come in
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