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Old 12-19-2021, 10:49 AM   #1
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Searching for a full list of all spare parts for T444e

Good day,

I'm from Germany and I'm owning a Thomas Vista International 3600 School Bus with T444E from 1998.

For maintenance I'm looking for a full list of all spare parts for the engine and for the bus to order them in US. At the moment I will need some sealing and some sealing for the cardan shaft.

As I couldn't find any download here in the forum I'm asking where to find?

Does someone has a list or a link where to download?

That will be very helpful

Thank you and best wishes from Germany
Wolfgang

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Old 12-21-2021, 11:30 AM   #2
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Good day,

I'm from Germany and I'm owning a Thomas Vista International 3600 School Bus with T444E from 1998.

For maintenance I'm looking for a full list of all spare parts for the engine and for the bus to order them in US. At the moment I will need some sealing and some sealing for the cardan shaft.

As I couldn't find any download here in the forum I'm asking where to find?

Does someone has a list or a link where to download?

That will be very helpful

Thank you and best wishes from Germany
Wolfgang
HI Wolfgang.
Nobody responded to your post ??
I don't have a list but what I can share with you is a t444e series service manual for 1997-2003 and also a T444e diagnostic manual.
These files are to big to upload. I can email them for you if you need them.


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Old 12-22-2021, 01:14 PM   #3
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Wolfgang,

Check your email, I sent you both manuals.
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Old 12-22-2021, 01:52 PM   #4
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Hi Wolfgang, I also have a bus with a T444e (2004). I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for. Are you asking for a list of maintenance parts for servicing your engine like oil and air filters, fluid capacities, hoses and belts; or are you looking for a list of parts that commonly fail on a t444e?

Ewo1, which diagnostic manual did you send Wolfgang?
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Old 12-23-2021, 02:24 PM   #5
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We venture far-afield with these spares:
* (2) mounted used 22.5 tires/wheels
* alternator
* water-pump
* (2) serpentine belts
* (3) sets of fuel filters
* (2) changes of engine oil -- five gallons per, ten total
* (3) oil filters
* supplemental coolant dispersing canister
* (3) gallons coolant
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No tranny filters, no tranny fluid?
With an Allison, never saw the need.
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The usual motley collection of tools.
A new empty 10l/2.5gallon fuel can (if it gets used, it gets donated and replaced).
A self-contained jump-starter rated to our engine size.
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We developed most of this inventory of spares during caravans with experienced travelers.
We watched, infrequently questioned, offered to assist.
The mentoring was free... and priceless.
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Accordingly, if I sense a receptive soul, I occasionally offer my sharings to the forum.
Take it, leave it, call me filthy disgusting names... all the same to me.
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Old 12-25-2021, 04:37 AM   #6
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Hi Ed,

thank you, these manuals are looking great

Enjoy your Christmas times
Wolfgang
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Old 12-25-2021, 04:44 AM   #7
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Hi Wolfgang, I also have a bus with a T444e (2004). I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for. Are you asking for a list of maintenance parts for servicing your engine like oil and air filters, fluid capacities, hoses and belts; or are you looking for a list of parts that commonly fail on a t444e?

Ewo1, which diagnostic manual did you send Wolfgang?
Hi Oldyeller,

I'm asking for a list of maintenance parts for servicing the engine like oil and air filters, fluid capacities, hoses and belts, seals and others. Some parts are difficult to find for me, as I'm not native english speaking and therefore difficult to find. Some parts are easy, e.g. I ordered already a new water pump or the viscous fan and other parts.
At the moment I will need some sealings and a seal for the cardan drive as there is a bit of a leak under the bus.

Best wishes from Muenster
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Old 12-25-2021, 02:29 PM   #8
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Hi Oldyeller,

I'm asking for a list of maintenance parts for servicing the engine like oil and air filters, fluid capacities, hoses and belts, seals and others. Some parts are difficult to find for me, as I'm not native english speaking and therefore difficult to find. Some parts are easy, e.g. I ordered already a new water pump or the viscous fan and other parts.
At the moment I will need some sealings and a seal for the cardan drive as there is a bit of a leak under the bus.

Best wishes from Muenster
Wolfgang
Well Wolfgang, I started typing another reply earlier and got sidetracked and never finished it.

In the foreword to the T444e Engine Service Manual (EGES-205) there is a list of manuals. I suspect (I've never seen it) the manual, 1171737R7, T 444E Diesel Engine Operation and Maintenance Manual might have the capacities listed and may well have the maintenance procedures and schedules. Perhaps someone will see this and confirm that - I'd like to know as well.

In the manual EGES-205, the engine service manual, you can find at least some of what you're looking for but it's spread throughout the manual. For instance, on page 271 is a table which lists the engine oil capacity with and without the oil filter (17 liters without filter and 18.5 liters with filter).

On page 223 of the manual begins a listing of all the engine sensors, many of which you will see referenced in discussions about the problem areas for this engine.

Point is you need the manual EGES-205, have you located it yet?
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Old 12-25-2021, 06:31 PM   #9
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T444e service manual

Here is a link for a t444e service manual, 562 pages!

EGES-125-1

https://s9c749554ed0cf09e.jimcontent...c%20Manual.pdf
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Old 12-25-2021, 07:10 PM   #10
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Here is a link for a t444e service manual, 562 pages!

EGES-125-1

https://s9c749554ed0cf09e.jimcontent...c%20Manual.pdf
EGES-125-1 is the diagnostic manual for the engine. It's another good manual to have but EGES-205 is the service manual for the T444e.

Wolfgang, EGES-125-1 is a good manual for you to have.
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Old 12-29-2021, 03:08 PM   #11
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HI Wolfgang.
Nobody responded to your post ??
I don't have a list but what I can share with you is a t444e series service manual for 1997-2003 and also a T444e diagnostic manual.
These files are to big to upload. I can email them for you if you need them.


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I would love you to send them to me! I have the same engine and have had no luck finding good information. My email is volfan414@gmail.com. Thanks in advance
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Old 01-11-2022, 09:17 PM   #12
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ewo1...Thanks for the .pdf link to that manual. It is perfect for my 1995!
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Old 01-21-2022, 06:37 PM   #13
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HI Wolfgang.
Nobody responded to your post ??
I don't have a list but what I can share with you is a t444e series service manual for 1997-2003 and also a T444e diagnostic manual.
These files are to big to upload. I can email them for you if you need them.


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Could you send me that as well? Please and thank you
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Old 07-14-2022, 04:53 PM   #14
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HI Wolfgang.
Nobody responded to your post ??
I don't have a list but what I can share with you is a t444e series service manual for 1997-2003 and also a T444e diagnostic manual.
These files are to big to upload. I can email them for you if you need them.


ed..

Could I trouble you for those as well?
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Old 07-15-2022, 07:52 PM   #15
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