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03-20-2018, 10:06 AM
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#921
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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I like the natural finish too, but I'd want to cover those joins and give it a slightly "paneled" look.
That's just me.
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03-20-2018, 04:13 PM
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#922
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: South Bend, IN
Posts: 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.dgeorge07
Fair question. I wish I had a better answer. The truth is is that I made the decision largely based on gut feeling about it. I could try to make a case for why I think it’s better but I think smaller stocks probably would work. The work that I’ve done with smaller lumber generally seems to split a lot more easily and is significantly weaker and susceptible to bowing.
It also made wiring and plumbing easier.
Others may weigh in. I have no regrets on the way I did it but there are a lot of good ways to solve the engineering challenges we face.
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Fair enough. I know 2x4 will be more than sufficient and I will likely use that at least around the walls but I will probably try to use smaller dimensional lumber where I can and wondered if you'd found otherwise. My thoughts were just that, in some situations, if there were 2-3 2x4s and drawers planned in those areas that one could gain another 1-1/2 to 2-1/4 inches in width for the drawers. It probably doesn't sound like much but I think I should be thinking in terms of cubic inches for this project
Re: Neighbor - that sounds like someone you should try and move away from. Oh wait...
Re: Ceiling - I think a white ceiling will be brighter inside than the natural look but I do like a natural look where it makes sense so I would at least consider it fully before committing to a finish. Personally, I'm planning a roof raise and something of a coffered ceiling look. I haven't decided if it will be all one color, panels one color with different colored beams or some combination of natural/painted finish. I'm a loooong way from needing to decide that, though!
Keep it up!
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03-20-2018, 06:09 PM
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#923
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,988
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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I love the wood finish but my wife loves the paint look.
She says the wood look makes it darker and kind of tunnel cavern like.
I am wanting to attempt pickling the boards in my build?
My old boss had everything wood in his office and everything had a bluish tent to it especially around the knots and he said it was pickling.
Another idea I really am starting to like/entertain is to do a light paint and sand it down to show some wood through the paint and varnish it?
More like a depression area finish?
I don't know how it would look on your ceiling/LUAN boards?
Have fun.
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03-20-2018, 10:55 PM
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#924
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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03-21-2018, 08:38 PM
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#925
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.dgeorge07
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I'm very partial to the semigloss versions you've done. I would tend to go for a natural or stained finish myself, but if you're looking for sleek, definitely go for the semigloss 3 coat. The small shine looks nice.
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03-21-2018, 09:12 PM
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#926
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 102
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: Cummins ISC 8.3 Allison MD3060
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Monitors make things looks different than real life, but from the pics I am partial to the three coats of eggshell.
That looks like a ceiling should..
James
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03-21-2018, 11:01 PM
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#927
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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So this universal application hitch came today. Test fitting it in here. Worried that it is too low but there is no way to raise it higher than it is here (could go lower) Am I going to have scraping issues with a hitch that is 14” off the ground? The re config puts the overhang from the rear axle shorter than on pullers... but it still concerns me a bit :/
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03-21-2018, 11:02 PM
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#928
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamieJackson
Monitors make things looks different than real life, but from the pics I am partial to the three coats of eggshell.
That looks like a ceiling should..
James
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That’s what I’m leaning towards as well looking at it in real life.
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03-22-2018, 09:45 AM
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#929
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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I have seen more than a few buses with the receiver mounted through a hole cut in the bumper to get the right height.
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03-22-2018, 10:08 AM
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#930
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
I have seen more than a few buses with the receiver mounted through a hole cut in the bumper to get the right height.
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I don’t think that is an option for me. The harmonic balancer is just behind the bumper...
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03-22-2018, 10:19 AM
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#931
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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My Oooops. Did not see that yours was an RE. Whole different ballgame with those critters.
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03-22-2018, 05:40 PM
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#932
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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Well we have committed to painting the ceiling. We liked the results of this triple thick primer in tests that we did. My wife got going on a first coat. It goes fast though. Very much like a paste. This quart only did about 1/3 of the ceiling.
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03-22-2018, 10:22 PM
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#933
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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I keep hopping around from thing to thing I guess. Just about to stain this. Sink and faucet arrive tomorrow and I can cut the holes. Then on to finishing!
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03-25-2018, 12:52 AM
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#934
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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In what must appear to all of you as massive ADD, I’ve been working on various things!
An XJ Cherokee has a unibody so there isn’t much to bolt to unless you have something to distribute the load. I took the heavy brackets from an XJ specific tow hook package (which I installed in a previous life) and bolted it to heavy box tube (instead of the tow hooks).
Then I bolted the base plates from a universal fit tow bar to it. Appears to me like it should be plenty strong and work well!
The idea of something going wrong with it is always food for thought though.
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03-25-2018, 08:42 AM
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#935
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.dgeorge07
In what must appear to all of you as massive ADD, I’ve been working on various things!
An XJ Cherokee has a unibody so there isn’t much to bolt to unless you have something to distribute the load. I took the heavy brackets from an XJ specific tow hook package (which I installed in a previous life) and bolted it to heavy box tube (instead of the tow hooks).
Then I bolted the base plates from a universal fit tow bar to it. Appears to me like it should be plenty strong and work well!
The idea of something going wrong with it is always food for thought though.
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Been lurking/following for a while and have been meaning to ask: Will you be detaching a driveshaft when you tow, or is your XJ two-wheel-drive? I think I see a pumpkin under there, so I’m guessing it’s 4x4.
I know it would’ve been necessary with my old Cherokee, and any subsequent 4x4 I’ve owned (aside from the Bronco).
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03-25-2018, 08:59 AM
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#936
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danno
Been lurking/following for a while and have been meaning to ask: Will you be detaching a driveshaft when you tow, or is your XJ two-wheel-drive? I think I see a pumpkin under there, so I’m guessing it’s 4x4.
I know it would’ve been necessary with my old Cherokee, and any subsequent 4x4 I’ve owned (aside from the Bronco).
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It is 4x4. I believe that with the transfer case in neutral both driveshafts are disconnected from A) each other and B) the transmission, so it should not be necessary to pull the driveshafts.
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03-25-2018, 09:08 AM
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#937
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.dgeorge07
It is 4x4. I believe that with the transfer case in neutral both driveshafts are disconnected from A) each other and B) the transmission, so it should not be necessary to pull the driveshafts.
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[emoji1303] Nice!
Mine was an older XJ that didn’t have a true neutral transfer case. Disregard then and carry on!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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03-25-2018, 09:10 AM
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#938
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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My wife has been painting. At the end of the day it is still painted plywood, but it’s coming out pretty nice!
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03-25-2018, 09:26 AM
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#939
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,830
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Years ago I remember having to drop the shafts on a WJ because it had that wierd vacuum controlled transfer case with no neutral, I think the YJ was that way too?
I towed TJ and JK several hundred miles at a time without issues putting the transfer case in neutral , they both had manual transfer cases and automatic transmissions . We were flat towing them with a Prevost bus
Christopher
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03-25-2018, 12:29 PM
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#940
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
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Confident that this is strong. Worried quite a bit that it will drag...
I bought this hitch though and I feel like I need to at least see if it will work.
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