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05-26-2018, 11:29 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
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All cleaned out and ready to start the marking and cutting for the raise. Looking for the right material for the hat channels. Looks like 1 3/16" is what I'm looking for. I might use some 1" x 1" square and some 3/16" angle? 
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05-26-2018, 11:41 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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Looking good man! That's exactly how I did my side walls too soo you won't have any problems. I copied many others. Looking forward to watching your progress
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05-26-2018, 11:47 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
All cleaned out and ready to start the marking and cutting for the raise. Looking for the right material for the hat channels. Looks like 1 3/16" is what I'm looking for. I might use some 1" x 1" square and some 3/16" angle? Attachment 22582 |
Asetechrail and I tried something similar. We tried welding ("we" means Kent did the work while I watched) 3/16" flat onto 1" square tube to achieve 1-3/16" to fit the hat channel.
Welding and grinding turned out to be very time consuming. We needed 26 pieces. They were taking about 40 minutes each.
We decided to go a different route and had a local shop bend up U channels from 1/8" material. That worked out much better for us.
Pictures: http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/pnw_steves-2002-bluebird-a3re-21182-13.html
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05-26-2018, 11:48 AM
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#44
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
All cleaned out and ready to start the marking and cutting for the raise. Looking for the right material for the hat channels. Looks like 1 3/16" is what I'm looking for. I might use some 1" x 1" square and some 3/16" angle? Attachment 22582 |
You gonna proceed this weekend or wait for the tropical depression to pass?
Supposed to be POURING rain tomorrow.
I could see about getting you some channel if you want. But it may take a while.
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05-26-2018, 11:55 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
Moving right along. Today I'll tackle the back wall. Then I will start figuring out my final cut lines. The way I'm cutting the bus I do not have to take all the windows out. But should I take them all out?
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If it were me I would, the windows aren't very time consuming to remove, on re-install I would have piece of mind that fresh sealant has been used, would hate to pop a window or twist a frame and need to track down a new window (not likely a big problem in civilization) but a cost I wouldn't be happy about if I could have avoided it.
That's my view anyways
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05-26-2018, 12:33 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 570
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: dt466e
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas1985
I would still take the window out and look at it. I bet you find a couple screws. You don't have to pry those pieces apart.
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Forgot to mention that I had to take the windows out, the flaps were a part of them. I was advised to use a spot weld cutter but decided to use a drill bit the diameter of the welds to get the panels loose. Did one side like that and broke a few bits. Might cop a few spot weld cutters for the other side to see how it goes
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05-27-2018, 01:21 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
You gonna proceed this weekend or wait for the tropical depression to pass?
Supposed to be POURING rain tomorrow.
I could see about getting you some channel if you want. But it may take a while.
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I guess if you could casually ask how long channel would take that would be pretty cool. And the cost of course.
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05-27-2018, 01:21 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
If it were me I would, the windows aren't very time consuming to remove, on re-install I would have piece of mind that fresh sealant has been used, would hate to pop a window or twist a frame and need to track down a new window (not likely a big problem in civilization) but a cost I wouldn't be happy about if I could have avoided it.
That's my view anyways
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Thanks. I probably will.
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05-27-2018, 01:22 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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I got a fancy blanket from Harbor Freight to keep Sparks from hitting my windshield or Dash. Going to cut some of the supporting metal out of the roof on this rainy day. 
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05-27-2018, 01:29 PM
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#50
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Originally Posted by yellowxj
I guess if you could casually ask how long channel would take that would be pretty cool. And the cost of course.
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Cost is free or cheap, if my stepdad can find the time to get em made.
Its worth a shot, I'll ask him.
How wide are the ribs on the ID? 1 3/16" ?
I think I had my Amtran rib extensions made in 1 1/8".
I'll check the size of the ones I've already got. May get lucky!
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05-27-2018, 04:12 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Cost is free or cheap, if my stepdad can find the time to get em made.
Its worth a shot, I'll ask him.
How wide are the ribs on the ID? 1 3/16" ?
I think I had my Amtran rib extensions made in 1 1/8".
I'll check the size of the ones I've already got. May get lucky!
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Looks like 1 1/8th? ID  
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05-27-2018, 11:04 PM
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#52
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
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I think you may be in luck.
I grabbed a rib extension and put it in my van. I just gotta find a way to get it over to yall!
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05-29-2018, 08:06 PM
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#53
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Trying to see if my interior roof sheet metal is sufficient thickness for skinning the sides after the roof raise. Seems Google can't find it for me. They would be ideal because they're the right height already and the holes are already drilled along the edges. I suppose if all else fails I can get the micrometer out and measure.
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05-29-2018, 08:49 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
Trying to see if my interior roof sheet metal is sufficient thickness for skinning the sides after the roof raise. Seems Google can't find it for me. They would be ideal because they're the right height already and the holes are already drilled along the edges. I suppose if all else fails I can get the micrometer out and measure.
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It's basically just skin, some have used it. As long as you don't run into stuff you won't puncture it.
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05-29-2018, 08:50 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I think you may be in luck.
I grabbed a rib extension and put it in my van. I just gotta find a way to get it over to yall!
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Speaking of rib extensions it reminded me of the search I just did for rub rail end caps. I'll need some for my double door mod. The caps for a Genesis Amtran new are $88ea. I'll have to find me some used ones.
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05-29-2018, 11:25 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
Trying to see if my interior roof sheet metal is sufficient thickness for skinning the sides after the roof raise. Seems Google can't find it for me. They would be ideal because they're the right height already and the holes are already drilled along the edges. I suppose if all else fails I can get the micrometer out and measure.
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I think they'd be fine.....mine are the same thickness as my skirts. I used some of mine to skin over my old doorway, and will use more to make storage compartment doors.
And all the pre-drilled holes are awesome. 
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06-13-2018, 08:23 PM
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#57
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Cant believe the difference in planning a bus 2.5 times bigger than my short bus. Just agony. I really want to just lift it so I can visualize the space better but I might be moving the rear door. What a pain. Night after night I've searching internet and watching YouTube videos for inspiration. I should be able to order my rib extensions from Colorado with my next paycheck.
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06-13-2018, 08:26 PM
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#58
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
Cant believe the difference in planning a bus 2.5 times bigger than my short bus. Just agony. I really want to just lift it so I can visualize the space better but I might be moving the rear door. What a pain. Night after night I've searching internet and watching YouTube videos for inspiration. I should be able to order my rib extensions from Colorado with my next paycheck.
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Why order them from so far away?
I've got a sample for you to try.
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06-14-2018, 06:38 AM
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#59
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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This company Fab Lab Customs was recommended. They've been doing parts for bus lifts. Sure seems like an easy way to go for u channel with the flares. Less fab work for me.  
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06-14-2018, 02:17 PM
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#60
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
This company Fab Lab Customs was recommended. They've been doing parts for bus lifts. Sure seems like an easy way to go for u channel with the flares. Less fab work for me. Attachment 23254Attachment 23255 |
LOL
well if you'd rather pay a stranger, be my guest. I was trying to hook you up for free with something that fits perfectly. 
Why do you need the flares? How long are the extensions he's selling?
Are you gonna forget the 6 degree slant and just see what happens?
I've also got 4x10's of cold rolled 18ga for $65 each if you want any.
JUST TRYING TO HELP!
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