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04-28-2018, 01:34 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Chance the bus
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04-28-2018, 04:03 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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The scraper blade in the Sawzall works great to pull up the rubber floor. But broke with 6ft left. Used a pick to clean out the screw heads before using the rechargable drill. So only had to cut a half dozen screws 
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04-28-2018, 10:31 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,529
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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Congrats on chance. The rest is all details. Are you going to do a similar road trip with this one?
Later j
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05-01-2018, 10:04 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Planning on Fla to Canada road trip in 2 years.
Got more taken apart Sunday.
Checking out the uchannel in the roof raise area. Planning on raising the 7 back rows of windows 18"-20" but leaving the first 3 windows low.
Is the white material insulation or just sound deadening? 
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05-01-2018, 10:07 AM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I'd love to lend a hand if you want any free help. Just hit me up.
raising a Thomas is tricky for sure. That bend at the beltline sure complicates things!
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05-01-2018, 10:48 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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It'd be awesome to see you again!
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I'd love to lend a hand if you want any free help. Just hit me up.
raising a Thomas is tricky for sure. That bend at the beltline sure complicates things!
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We plan to mimic this roof raise. In some resects I think mine will be easier.
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05-01-2018, 04:07 PM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
It'd be awesome to see you again!We plan to mimic this roof raise. In some resects I think mine will be easier. Attachment 21454
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That's not a Thomas. Isn't yours a Thomas? If so you'll have to get creative due to the 6 degree slant.
When yall gonna start cutting? Can I watch?
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05-01-2018, 04:32 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 335
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Corbeil
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Ford PowerStroke Diesel 6.0
Rated Cap: GVWR 11,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
That's not a Thomas. Isn't yours a Thomas? If so you'll have to get creative due to the 6 degree slant.
When yall gonna start cutting? Can I watch?
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It looks like they're planning to bypass that by raising after the first few rows of windows, unless I misunderstood.
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05-01-2018, 05:01 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Uh oh. Weres the slant? Whats a belt line? I'm getting my angle finder out when i get home. I'll mark off the cut lines i'm thinking about for some feedback. Yes ours is a thomas. Once i get the title i'll be spending more time on it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
That's not a Thomas. Isn't yours a Thomas? If so you'll have to get creative due to the 6 degree slant.
When yall gonna start cutting? Can I watch?
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05-01-2018, 05:02 PM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weboughtabus
It looks like they're planning to bypass that by raising after the first few rows of windows, unless I misunderstood.
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Right.
But if you raise one part on a Thomas you'd need to account for the 6 degree bend at the window line.
I'm not nay-saying. if anyone can do it Travis can.
See the bend inward ^? if you raise you have to do it below the bend, but a partial raise will make for lots of finesse to make it look right or work at all.
I'm REALLY interested to see this!!!!
GO TRAV AND MICHELLE!!!!
So- Can I watch? I'll even help if you like...
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05-01-2018, 05:06 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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Absolutely welcome to help. We'll figure it out. And got the pool 20' away. I plan on working and swimming a lot this summer.
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05-01-2018, 05:09 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
Absolutely welcome to help. We'll figure it out. And got the pool 20' away. I plan on working and swimming a lot this summer.
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Are you gonna use fiberglass or steel to fill the gaps in the transition?
And cool, just let me know when!!! If you need any tools or supplies let me know, too.
I can get 18ga (or any other) steel for wholesale cost.
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05-01-2018, 05:49 PM
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#13
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 335
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Corbeil
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Ford PowerStroke Diesel 6.0
Rated Cap: GVWR 11,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Right.
But if you raise one part on a Thomas you'd need to account for the 6 degree bend at the window line.
I'm not nay-saying. if anyone can do it Travis can.
See the bend inward ^? if you raise you have to do it below the bend, but a partial raise will make for lots of finesse to make it look right or work at all.
I'm REALLY interested to see this!!!!
GO TRAV AND MICHELLE!!!!
So- Can I watch? I'll even help if you like...
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I understand now. I was thinking of the bump raise that some of the buses have right after the driver and assumed he was going to raise even higher after that point.
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05-01-2018, 07:22 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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My current fantasy cut line. The transition would be between the front verticle lines.
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05-01-2018, 08:42 PM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Seems like it would be easier to raise ALL of it. What's the plan for the angle difference in that vertical cut line?
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05-01-2018, 08:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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It would probably be easier to just lift the entire thing below the windows, and then skin it and put the windows where you want. I'm assuming that's why you want to cut it like this, to keep the windows lower up front? Can't think of any other reason
Maybe your just doing something crazy with the front roof area I can't think of
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05-01-2018, 09:02 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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I just wanted to keep the front windows low for when we're cruising so everyone can see. I haven't thought about lowering the windows. Now I've got some thinking to do.
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05-01-2018, 09:28 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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I've only read some posts, ECCB is the man to talk to about roof raises. I've just recently noticed the effects of the Thomas window angle while working on framing my interior, and I could imagine it's a bit more difficult to deal with that angle when it's the bus body, and you'd be mating that angled front to a squared back, and higher angle up top
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05-01-2018, 09:29 PM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowxj
I just wanted to keep the front windows low for when we're cruising so everyone can see. I haven't thought about lowering the windows. Now I've got some thinking to do.
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If you lift the windows 6 to 9" it makes it easier to install standard height cabinetry and still have the full window to look through.
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05-02-2018, 07:50 AM
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#20
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 455
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We would like our counter tops high. I'm a little over 6' and the wife is close. I think our favorite work space in the house is 39". Was planning on 18"-24" lift.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
If you lift the windows 6 to 9" it makes it easier to install standard height cabinetry and still have the full window to look through.
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