CornHusker - is this really a skoolie?

[dredman]

I mean, it is not yellow?
Looks more like a city bus?
Got cool, comfortable passenger seats?
Weird sliding glass?
AC?

Can I still be in the club?

https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...00&acctid=5534

[EastCoastCB]

Did ya buy it???
Looks PERFECT for you Dredman! Just what the Dr ordered.

[mdeese]

I'm digging the paint job it came with. When do you pick it up?

[EastCoastCB]

Is that the one that the listing went on and on about being so well maintained?

[dredman]

The plan right now is to pick it up early next week(have not talked to UN yet) but that depends on a funeral (my aunt died yesterday) Planning on grabbing my nephew and strolling up for a snag. I think it will be perfect for me.

And I am not sure I have ever seen so much detail on a bus - they had 3 that sold today.

Check out the maintenance records
Repair History | Transportation Services | University of Nebraska–Lincoln

[EastCoastCB]

Yeah I been watching those. Nice catch, man!

[mdeese]

Very detailed records. Did the overheating issues from 07/05/2016 get resolved, I couldn't follow the mechanic lingo.

[cadillackid]

what a great catch dred!!!! heck its even got some of the same color hints as the original dredman bus!!.. and you got Air-con!
-Christopher

[cowlitzcoach]

That is a nice looking TC2000 FE that was a commercial build rather than a school build. Outside of the seats, windows, and paint job it is basically a yellow bus.

For a sold price of a little over $3,200.00 that appears to be a pretty good deal.

The only thing I don't like about the bus is it doesn't appear to have air brakes.

A things I don't like about wet brakes on a bus that large:

1. No hand brake will ever hold as well as a set of spring brakes.
2. No wet brake system will ever come close to the braking surface and braking ability of an air brake system.
3. Wet brakes go bad just sitting--water in the system rusts the parts from the inside out. Air brakes don't grow problems nearly as bad from sitting as do wet brakes.

Good luck and happy trails to you!

[dredman]

Originally Posted by mdeese

Very detailed records. Did the overheating issues from 07/05/2016 get resolved, I couldn't follow the mechanic lingo.

I have to guess the issue was resolved - it had almost 300 miles on it added before it was parked? More than the others that also had issues


I will blow it up anyway

[dredman]

Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach

The only thing I don't like about the bus is it doesn't appear to have air brakes.

[/LIST]Good luck and happy trails to you!

I was not excited about the brakes either, but I had air issues on the last bus?

[turf]

Great Bus!! welcome back into the fold! nice find and good to see you re-bus!

[dredman]

Originally Posted by turf

Great Bus!! welcome back into the fold! nice find and good to see you re-bus!

Thanks yall..... I was about to lose my mind being BUS-LESS - that is almost as bad as being bike-less

[2kool4skool]

Lookin' good D man!

[cadillackid]

Originally Posted by dredman

I have to guess the issue was resolved - it had almost 300 miles on it added before it was parked? More than the others that also had issues


I will blow it up anyway

one thing we know is you Drive your bus! it doesnt stay in one spot too long!!
-Christopher

[Wutm8]

Awesome find Man! I wouldn't change a thing regarding the outside.

[sdwarf36]

Cow----"No wet brake system will ever come close to the braking surface and braking ability of an air brake system. "

Can you elaborate? I can't see why there would be any difference in brake surface area. A 12" drum thats 3" wide is going to have the same room for a shoe regardless whats pushing it. (Unless the shoes are longer? I can't picture it though)

[cowlitzcoach]

It is hard to make apples to apples comparisons since most wet brakes these days are all disc brakes.

I will grant you that the wet disc brakes are pretty solid and that they are more than a step above the drum brakes they replaced.

But the reality is, when brakes get hot the heat transfers to the brake fluid. If the brake fluid gets hot enough it can boil away to nothing and the only braking that is left is any engine braking from down shifting or pulling back on the hand brake.

Back in the day when all brakes on buses were drum brakes, most of the rear drums on wet brakes were about the width of the front drums on the air brake buses. And the rear brakes on the air brake buses were probably half again as wide as the rear drums on the wet brake buses.

I will grant you that spe'c's can vary greatly. I came across an IC RE bus with air brakes that seemed pretty whimpy. They were much smaller than the minimum spe'c for brakes here in WA and OR. The minimum spe'c on a Type D bus is 16.5"x6 in front and 16.5"x8" in the rear. On a Type 'C' bus 16.5"x5" in front and 16.5"x7" in the rear. The whimpy brakes on that IC RE had 6.5" wide in the rear and 5" wide in the front. That is a significant reduction in braking capacity for nearly identical buses.

The size of the air cans that operate the brakes can be very different as well. Most Type 'D' buses in WA and OR will have 30/30 rear cans and 24 cans in the front.

My Crown had 7" wide brakes in the front and 11" wide brakes in the rear. It had 36/36 cans in the rear 30 cans in the front. We had one Gillig that had 9" front brakes and 13" rear brakes. Let me tell you, when you got used to the brakes on those buses when you got into lesser buses you almost felt like you needed to do a Fred Flintstone to get the lesser buses stopped.

[cadillackid]

with disc brakes dont you have much less heat transfer to the fluid than with drums?

with drums the fluid cylinder is inside the drum.. whereas on disc the caliper is outside where it can stay cooler esp since discs cool down much quicker than drums do..

of course drums have more initial mass so on cold brakes you have alot of drum mass to heat up before your brakes fade...

I do find the disc hydfraulic in redbyrd has a lot LESS tendency to try and lock the rear wheels... (before ABS kicks)..

my drum air bus loves to try and lock the rear wheels if I have to go into any kind of fairly moderate - heavy stop... in fact to keep all 6 wheels spinning I lose a lot of front braking capacity that if I let the rears Lock I can get.. but of course locked rear wheels arent a good thing for vehicle control..

-Christopher

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by dredman

Thanks yall..... I was about to lose my mind being BUS-LESS - that is almost as bad as being bike-less

I could tell you were in the midst of serious bus withdrawals.