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Old 02-21-2021, 06:30 PM   #1
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Freebo’s build

Got my 06Thomas Minotour bus this week and starting the Skoolie build. I don’t have a name for her yet, but thinking of Homeskoolie.
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Old 02-21-2021, 06:53 PM   #2
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Decal removal

3 layers of decals, two under paint were the first things to go. Good family project. Heat gun for the win.
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Old 02-21-2021, 07:06 PM   #3
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De-alarming and start seat removal

Got rid of the seat belt, fire escape, and the no child left behind alarms today. Also started to get some of the seats out.
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Old 02-22-2021, 09:53 AM   #4
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Old 02-22-2021, 11:05 AM   #5
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Looks like you're having a good time, the whole family is involved.
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Old 02-22-2021, 08:29 PM   #6
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Awesomeness !!!Welcome and happy trails !
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Old 02-24-2021, 07:58 AM   #7
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Won’t start

After my “alarm removal”. The bus won’t start. The battery was down to 12.3 so I undid my “fix.” Charged up battery. Still won’t start. At first there was one click but that’s all. The lights do work and chime starts when I put in the key. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 02-24-2021, 11:38 AM   #8
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Most likely a "phantom" cut wire still looking for "ground" in the door/window safety system.

Suggest you go over the wires you cut again, or might have pulled loose, on the deconstruction phase.

Good luck, and post up again when you find the issue...
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:18 PM   #9
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The "alarm" is also a start interrupt circuit. If certain conditions aren't met, like an open door, hatch, wheelchair lift etc. the bus won't start. Somewhere you've probably cut a wire which interrupts part of that circuit. Either that or one or more of your hatches or doors or... isn't closed.
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:33 PM   #10
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After my “alarm removal”. The bus won’t start. The battery was down to 12.3 so I undid my “fix.” Charged up battery. Still won’t start. At first there was one click but that’s all. The lights do work and chime starts when I put in the key. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
on my 04 chevy 6.0 gas vortec i had to connect the vandalock relay and the vandalock pilot wires together to make it start.
but the company i work for has many box vans that are the chevy gm chassis and i had to drive an hour away to work on one or haul it back after they replaced the battery and starter and still nothing?
i told those men yesterday to check the fuses and this morning when i got there and asked about them checking fuses they said where is the fuse box?
so i went to work.
i found a bad fuse on the ignition circuit and swapped the same size fuse from the blower circuit over and it fired up.
no vandalock on that one.
there are several (more than normal)ignition fuses under that under hood fuse box and some ignition fuses serve more than just ignition and some are labled ignition and dont even have anything to do with ignition.
trust me?
once i figured out the vandalock inside of the bus i was able to cut every safety switch out including door buttons/buzzers,no child check stuff.
this is my second bus and my first one didnt have all of that so from reading on here for years of people with cutting wires issue I took the long road on a short bus?
kept a battery charger on.
i cut each wire in between the the name/number designation on each wire so as to identify each if i had to reconnect.
cut a wire and start the bus. delete wire cut a wire and see if it starts? oops reconnect. same thing dash lights up and everything looks good but turn to start nothing.
i will end up deleting the last two vandalock wires when i get into finding where they spliced into the ECM or they or connected and tucked away now so i might just forget about them.
mine were vandalock relay and vandalock pilot had to be connected together.
good luck
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:43 PM   #11
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Thanks for the input Jolly Roger. I’ll see what I can do tomorrow
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:46 PM   #12
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Thanks petteg59 and rwnielsen. I’ll keep you posted. It’s all fun and games till the bus won’t start
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Old 02-25-2021, 10:44 AM   #13
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I disconnected and reconnected the battery and undid my previous work and Praise God the bus started. I have learned my lesson. One thing at a time.
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Old 02-25-2021, 11:04 AM   #14
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Good to hear, and thanks for the update.

Would be good to pin a thread entitled 'DON'T DO THIS FIRST'.
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:13 PM   #15
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Glad to hear it. It happens to people all the time, you can add Expert Troubleshooter to your list of skills. Onwards to the next challenge.
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Old 02-25-2021, 08:06 PM   #16
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Good deal!
Sometimes it takes awhile to pinpoint the problem especially when it comes to electrical, but in a shorty it usually? is easier.

Good luck going forward, and keep your progress pics coming!
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Old 03-02-2021, 12:57 PM   #17
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Hammock hanger

I thought I’d take a break from the electrical system and get a hammock up “something fun”. I used some flip anchors and self tapping screws for the mounting points. The holes in the anchors were pretty close to the screw holes that hold up the metal roof. A little persuasion from my vice and they were good to go. They should hold the weight fine but I put in another set for a back up.
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