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10-12-2016, 04:38 PM
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#21
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Engine is waiting for shipment out of ohio. Clutch pedal , linkages, and heavy duty front bumper is here. (Much thicker metal than the bus bumper.. bout 1/4") Bumper is from a 1985 c1700 straight truck. Still need Dog House and proper fuller 9 speed.
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10-12-2016, 06:36 PM
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#22
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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Are you getting any reasonable prices on those fuller 9-speeds? I'm curious what they're going for..
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10-12-2016, 09:55 PM
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#23
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty
Are you getting any reasonable prices on those fuller 9-speeds? I'm curious what they're going for..
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Shopping by series number. I am looking for a specific model. I found a RTXF-11609B take out for 1400. Closest Ive come to being perfect. Forward mount one piece so the shifter is as far forward as possible. Some have a bell housing and motor mounts. This one does not. I think its out of a straight truck as well. I have to check with DD to see if the accessory drive on the back of the engine will support the weight without the extra mounts. A cross bar mount can be added to the rear of the tranny for support.( its like a leaf spring crossways) There are motor mount holes in the frame of the bus for extra mounts on the tranny in case I need to use one with a bell. You can get the ratio spread sheet from eaton. Nice chart.
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10-12-2016, 10:13 PM
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#24
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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I will probably have the tranny checked out at neals or valley before its installed as I am overhauling the 6v92 if it needs it or not. Block checked, valve job, injectors rebuilt, new frost plugs and such. If the transmission has issues I know that Weller will exchange it and only charge for whats broken. Or at least that how it used to be.. been a few years since I did business with any of them. Lol
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11-03-2016, 09:55 PM
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#25
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jazty
Are you getting any reasonable prices on those fuller 9-speeds? I'm curious what they're going for..
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I've decided to go with a straight 7 speed with overdrive. ( Don't need air to split the gears lik a 9 would require) Because the engine will have 1200fp of torque the proper tranny is a TX 14607b.
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11-04-2016, 08:36 AM
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#26
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,791
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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I'll have to take a look into it. Have you driven those 7-speeds before? If so, how are they? I've thrown around the idea of a Spicer 6+1 because they're fairly easy to find, but I hear some of the gears are tricky to find..
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11-07-2016, 01:41 AM
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#27
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Finished the pedal group. It took some fitting considering that the clutch pedal is from a straight truck that had a drivers droor instead of a counsel.
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11-07-2016, 01:51 AM
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#28
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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11-07-2016, 08:03 AM
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#29
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Very nice work. Hanging pedals, especially different from OEM can be a challenge. I am in the midst of it myself and having fits just trying to find room for my master cylinder before I can locate the brake pedal.
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11-07-2016, 08:59 AM
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#30
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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lookin good!! what is the advantage of hanging vs floor mounted pedals? or is it required that your clutch hang to make the linkages work right?
-Christopher
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11-07-2016, 09:18 AM
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#31
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Advantage was that my clutch pedal was removed from an s1754 straight truck and You only had to remove a bushing to hang it in next to the brake pedal wirhout issues. The brackets for the pedal and linkage were on the bus from factory.
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11-07-2016, 10:26 AM
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#32
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
lookin good!! what is the advantage of hanging vs floor mounted pedals? or is it required that your clutch hang to make the linkages work right?
-Christopher
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Im basically installing stock parts from a s1754 straight truck that are missing from the s1754 bus chassis because of the automatic transmission.
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11-07-2016, 10:50 AM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SH0RTBUS
Im basically installing stock parts from a s1754 straight truck that are missing from the s1754 bus chassis because of the automatic transmission.
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that makes it nice! i sometimes forget there were alot of Manual transmission trucks on similar chassis to our busses.. seemed in ohio anyway any school bus we had that was 1974 or newer was automatic.. yet in 89 when I drove an international truck it was a stick.. as were all the trucks on our fleet and many others.... of course its dashboard and front end looked similar to the school busses i had ridden on just 2 years prior.. on the back of course was a 28 foot box
-Christopher
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11-12-2016, 02:03 AM
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#34
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Engine arrived on Veterans day. Everything looks Ok. The dimensions for the motor mounts are the same as the 7.3 liter. This 6v92TA should drop in easily with no modifications to the frame. The fan is Ginormous and cant be used. The bus radiator will need to be worked on or changed . A s1700 straight truck offered a 6v92ta as an optain so I will have to break down the serial numbers in order to fool the parts computer at IH into giving me a part number for the proper radiator. I predict that I will have a custom build for a radiator.
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11-12-2016, 02:19 AM
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#35
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
that makes it nice! i sometimes forget there were alot of Manual transmission trucks on similar chassis to our busses.. seemed in ohio anyway any school bus we had that was 1974 or newer was automatic.. yet in 89 when I drove an international truck it was a stick.. as were all the trucks on our fleet and many others.... of course its dashboard and front end looked similar to the school busses i had ridden on just 2 years prior.. on the back of course was a 28 foot box
-Christopher
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YES, the fact that the basic trucks are the same except for the bus body makes it easy to swap parts from one to the other. You need to understand the serial number breakdown for truck optains when hunting for compatible parts. ( Im still tring to decipher it) ...my bus did not offer a stick as an optain but had brackets for mounting the clutch pedal and linkage, making it an easy task of simply installing the parts.
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11-12-2016, 02:44 AM
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#36
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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11-12-2016, 06:52 AM
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#37
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Awesome update!
I feel sorry for that poor little 5x8, though.
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11-12-2016, 07:03 AM
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#38
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Awesome update!
I feel sorry for that poor little 5x8, though.
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Lol! Yeah. Made a quick trip to Northern Tool because my logistics arrangement fell through and I was forced to pick it up at the local hub. I need a trailer for this project anyway, this should be the only 2600lb item I will have to haul with it.
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11-12-2016, 07:55 AM
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#39
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I have virtually the SAME trailer. It was an ok deal because I NEEDED it... was like $599.
I use it for a mower and some tools. Pulled by a POS 2013 Subaru.
Looks like you tweaked it a bit, eh? That's what cheapo trailers are good for! lol
I had a 6x12 I bought nearly new on CL for $700 a few years back. I hauled 7 thousand lbs of oak to the dump in one shot with that one. Single axle and a half ton 6 cyl GMC pullin it SLOW!
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01-15-2017, 01:19 PM
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#40
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Ft, Myers Florida
Posts: 73
Year: 1988
Coachwork: IH Amtran
Chassis: S1700
Engine: 7.3 IH
Rated Cap: 152" WB, 5 window, 21.5k
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Happy new year! Working in Miami again and have got the engine tore down this far. built a run stand and installed a winch on the trailer.
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