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11-09-2011, 12:45 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,489
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/AT545
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
I notice you have a lot of what appears to be unsecured furniture (tables, chairs, etc.) in your bus. Do you just not drive it often? How do you deal with all that stuff when you do drive?
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11-09-2011, 10:18 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
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11-12-2011, 10:36 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
finished up the rear office/bedroom this week. All this white is primer. I will probably paint with a light tan color. Priming the ceiling really helped a ton. It smells like a new RV inside. I also sealed shut the top windows and paneled and framed over them. SO all you see now is a nice square window. The seals and the top windows were so shot there was really no way to save them so they didn't leak without replacing the whole window..which i'm not doing. I will install maybe 2 of those fantastic vents(they are roof mounted vents with fans installed in them. I did insulate all this as well . I don't think the sun hitting the rear of the bus is going to bother me this coming summer!
I have named the bus to. I decided on the name The Big Defender
The rear bedroom construction is complete for the most part. I can add cabnets later on.Netx is the kitchen..but i will proubly wait a month or 2 to start that
Here's a few photo's of the work
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11-12-2011, 06:24 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
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Originally Posted by Chadluc
I do have L brakets on the desk and bed... I do move it ofton..I drive it slow! also this bus (not to brag) has Air throttle control. it is a very interesting enginering addition.n when I throttle up, the bus throttles up vewry slow and gently. That helps alot when accelerating becuase it is not jerky. It couldn't jerk ,unless you poped the clutch...which would just stall the engine. It from accelerating to stopping everything is very gentle. The silver eagle coach is just that also. No leaf springs. Coach has Eagle torsalistic suspention. Better ride than air... I had a tc2000 school bus..it rode like a dump truck. I feel for you guys. I hated my bus. It rode ruff and rugged in general. very awful machine to operate. small bumps were like hitting giant pot holes. So I can see why u would wonder
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The others might buy that but I had an Eagle. Sure the torsalastic suspension is great on a rough road. But compared to our Blue Bird, it wasn't THAT much smoother of a ride. Also the suspension is very pricey to repair (along with most anything else on the coach). The Eagle was faster on the highway but the Blue Bird climbs hills better. Tie down all your furniture and lock the cabinet/refrigerator doors closed. You don't want to be taken out by a jar of mayo flying thru the air! Another word of wisdom. NEVER lift the wheels of the eagle off the ground when you are trying to level up! It will damage the torsalastic suspension. I do miss those bays though. And the HUGE AC/DC alternator that was on the bus (David forgot to put in in the back of the Blue Bird before heading out here... bummer)
Shame you aren't in Roswell anymore. We are heading there this week (moving). I still have my Eagle 05 bus manual from Eagle Bus and Car. I need to find someone who can use it. If I see LeRoy again I'll ask him if he wants it. Did you see his bus, Liberty, in the BCM centerfold (November 2011)?
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11-13-2011, 06:28 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
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11-13-2011, 06:35 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
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Originally Posted by lornaschinske
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Originally Posted by Chadluc
I do have L brakets on the desk and bed... I do move it ofton..I drive it slow! also this bus (not to brag) has Air throttle control. it is a very interesting enginering addition.n when I throttle up, the bus throttles up vewry slow and gently. That helps alot when accelerating becuase it is not jerky. It couldn't jerk ,unless you poped the clutch...which would just stall the engine. It from accelerating to stopping everything is very gentle. The silver eagle coach is just that also. No leaf springs. Coach has Eagle torsalistic suspention. Better ride than air... I had a tc2000 school bus..it rode like a dump truck. I feel for you guys. I hated my bus. It rode ruff and rugged in general. very awful machine to operate. small bumps were like hitting giant pot holes. So I can see why u would wonder
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The others might buy that but I had an Eagle. Sure the torsalastic suspension is great on a rough road. But compared to our Blue Bird, it wasn't THAT much smoother of a ride. Also the suspension is very pricey to repair (along with most anything else on the coach). The Eagle was faster on the highway but the Blue Bird climbs hills better. Tie down all your furniture and lock the cabinet/refrigerator doors closed. You don't want to be taken out by a jar of mayo flying thru the air! Another word of wisdom. NEVER lift the wheels of the eagle off the ground when you are trying to level up! It will damage the torsalastic suspension. I do miss those bays though. And the HUGE AC/DC alternator that was on the bus (David forgot to put in in the back of the Blue Bird before heading out here... bummer)
Shame you aren't in Roswell anymore. We are heading there this week (moving). I still have my Eagle 05 bus manual from Eagle Bus and Car. I need to find someone who can use it. If I see LeRoy again I'll ask him if he wants it. Did you see his bus, Liberty, in the BCM centerfold (November 2011)?
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I can tell you this,Now that I have the rear complete i have now screwed and secured the furniture. Don't need **** shifting around on me. Yes she dose fly 75 - 80mph...slow on hills thou.She's pulling alot of weight! Did not don't know what bcm centerfold is. i will try to google it now
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11-13-2011, 07:30 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Adirondack Mountains NY
Posts: 1,101
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadluc
Did not don't know what bcm centerfold is. i will try to google it now
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Bus Conversions Magazine. The November issue is available for a limited time as a free download:
http://www.busconversions.com/november.pdf
But the "Centerfold" is sawed in half when viewing the coach as two separate single-page views!
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11-14-2011, 12:57 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
But...... INTERIOR PICS!!!!! I met LeRoy in T or C where we were vending at the Hot Springs Festival. He recognized the food cart.
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11-25-2011, 09:09 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
I ordered my furnace the other day. I whent with the 79-1809 Suburban Furnace Nt 30sp For Ducted - 30,000 Btu - 1 626.92 626.92 from ppl motorhomes online.. should be here by mon. i have installed all the ducting in the floor.will take a few pics later on
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11-26-2011, 07:34 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 119
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
I noticed that almost NOBODY runs electrical wires inside plastic pipe. While they work fine by themselves, if you have to add or replace one it will be a major P.I.T.A. without the conduit. FWIW.
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11-26-2011, 11:19 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
if you cant see it, you can't belive it. So here are the photo's. i am going to install 2 more ducts under the bus. 1 more in the front and 1 in the rear. The ducts i have installed you can see is 1 in the rear bedroom, 1 in the hall way middle of bus and 1 in the front.The furnace will go in the middle bay passenger side.I secured the opening bay door shut.that will stay shut and screwed shut. i will cut a small opening and install the furnace vent and cover thru the aluminum bay door. I am ruff installing things at the moment. i plan on in the furture, maybe a year or 2 after everything is installed pulling everything out of the bays tanks,furnace,etc and remodleling,carpeting the storage bays and re running all electrical connections. Will go with a conduit of some sort at that time. For now things are being put in position and ruffed in while the project moves forward.
Rear bedroom heating duct installed
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Heating duct installed in middle of bus just outside bathroom
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Here is a duct in the kitchen
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[b]here is what it looks like under the bus[b]
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11-26-2011, 11:37 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: California City, CA
Posts: 267
Year: 1982
Coachwork: Thomas TransitLiner
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
Might want to put a piece of armaflex or something over that pipe strap, that duct is just some sort of aluminized fabric or thin sheet isn't it? You've got all the components of a rudimentary jigsaw there - a fine toothed blade (the pipe strap), vibration to power it and the material to cut (the duct).
Probably not something to get an ulcer about, but as long as you're in there, just a thought.
Tom
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11-26-2011, 06:48 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
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11-26-2011, 07:39 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
I had an idea for air conditioning. If I mount a 2 roof top A/C units to under the bus.In the bay in the middle where the furnace will be... Cut out the aluminum bay door to accommodate the air vents (the back of the A/C unit..the condenser. Mount the A/C units up like on rail road ties. the bottom of the roof top A/C, out put of the A/C units (where the cold air comes out. ) have some sort of transfer box. So the duct will run from the register (blows inside bus) and connect the hose first to a junction box, then to the A/C and furnace. So you could switch between the two units using the same register vents. Or I could buy a house A/C and do the same kinda thing... what do you think
keeping the A/C under the bus will keep the A/c running cooler and more efficent... I could add new duct work and new registers ..thats an option two
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11-26-2011, 11:53 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Hollywood,CA
Posts: 222
Year: 1974
Coachwork: American eagle
Chassis: Silver Eagle
Engine: Screaming Jimmy 8v-71
Rated Cap: 46
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
Hey what do you think about this >> Ramsond 12,000 BTU 1+ Ton Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner & Heat Pump - 120V/60Hz http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Ma...atalogId=10053
I could get 2 of these. install the 2 condensers under the bus and mount the 2 evaporative coolers inside. 1 rear 1 front. they provide heat as well. so in the event that power is included in site hookup ,I could run the heat pump instead of the propane furnace.. any idea's..or am i just being creative to be overly creative
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11-26-2011, 11:57 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 119
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
Those ducts are regular dryer ones, heath exchange (losses) will be horrendous...
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11-27-2011, 07:40 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Tarheel State
Posts: 102
Coachwork: - Still Shopping -
Chassis: - Going Medium/Large -
Engine: - DT466 Desired -
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
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Originally Posted by Chadluc
Hey what do you think about this >> Ramsond 12,000 BTU 1+ Ton Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner & Heat Pump - 120V/60Hz http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Ma...atalogId=10053
I could get 2 of these. install the 2 condensers under the bus and mount the 2 evaporative coolers inside. 1 rear 1 front. they provide heat as well. so in the event that power is included in site hookup ,I could run the heat pump instead of the propane furnace.. any idea's..or am i just being creative to be overly creative
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.. says 120V in the heading and 220V in the details, and then 110V in the info .. a little conflicting information there .. I'd dig a little deeper into that before pulling the trigger .. would be interesting to see one in person and get a feel for the fitment ..
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11-27-2011, 10:06 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
Don't know the specifics of that particular Mini-split, but I did have 5 similar units installed here at my studios in Houston. The compressors do pull 220v while the wall mounted blower unit is just 110 on mine. And the brand is critical. I was sold a bill of goods (cheap Chinese crap) by the AC company here and have had nothing but trouble with them and literally threw 2 of them into the dumpster and replaced them with conventional Rheem units. I have been told though that those by Mitsubishi are head & shoulders above the other brands.
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11-27-2011, 09:52 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Tarheel State
Posts: 102
Coachwork: - Still Shopping -
Chassis: - Going Medium/Large -
Engine: - DT466 Desired -
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
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Originally Posted by Tango
Don't know the specifics of that particular Mini-split, but I did have 5 similar units installed here at my studios in Houston. The compressors do pull 220v while the wall mounted blower unit is just 110 on mine. And the brand is critical. I was sold a bill of goods (cheap Chinese crap) by the AC company here and have had nothing but trouble with them and literally threw 2 of them into the dumpster and replaced them with conventional Rheem units. I have been told though that those by Mitsubishi are head & shoulders above the other brands.
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.. good intel .. thanks ..
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11-27-2011, 10:17 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
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Re: 1974 Model 05 Silver Eagle
There are 120 volt mini-split heat pumps. About 12,000 btu's is max for 120 volts, on a 20 amp circuit.
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