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09-15-2019, 05:24 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Novice question/ Skoolie resale value/ Build to code.
Has anyone, that you know of; ever attempted to build a "skoolie" (to code) as specified by the following website address?
$10,000 QUESTION: Did their resale value increase (at resale) because they were totally code compliant and certified by the below named institutions? (see below).
http://https://www.rvia.org/standard...ansi-standards
Also
https://www.rvia.org/standards-regul...rds-compliance
Your assistance is appreciated.
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09-15-2019, 05:37 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
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Something on your first link is not working properly.
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09-15-2019, 06:20 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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These voluntary lobbying orgs and their "codes" are for large commercial companies.
Irrelevant and unavailable to DIY converters.
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09-15-2019, 06:43 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
These voluntary lobbying orgs and their "codes" are for large commercial companies.
Irrelevant and unavailable to DIY converters.
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Absolutely irrelevant until you try to stay at RV parks that will not let you stay without an RVIA emblem on your bus.
I traveled the country for 6+ years in my first bus and only ran into a handful of places that would not let me stay but I seemed to find them at the end of particularly long driving days when I was a little short on patience.
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09-15-2019, 07:04 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
These voluntary lobbying orgs and their "codes" are for large commercial companies.
Irrelevant and unavailable to DIY converters.
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I disagree. Most of those codes make installations safe. And many of those codes were created by boards that were created by or influence insurance companies, so to say your bus meets those codes says that you are just as insurable as those crappy RVs.
All of the codes are available. Only ones I haven’t been able to find without spending money are the ANSI standards.
We need our own lobby dammit!
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09-15-2019, 07:15 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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Three separate issues
1. Documenting the costs and quality/care taken.
2. Max resale value.
3. Getting insurance, the kind you want at a reasonable rate.
Each of these deserve their own thread.
Claiming to follow these standards is not going to directly officially affect either 2 or 3. Not saying shouldn't do it, just no guarantee it will "pay off" financially.
Posting a step-by-step build log here and keeping all receipts may help with both at least as much.
There is no verification, so in the end the agent / buyer needs to take your word, based on trust.
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09-15-2019, 07:18 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
unavailable to DIY converters.
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I meant the inspection (if any) and certification sticker, not the code docs
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09-15-2019, 07:29 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
I meant the inspection (if any) and certification sticker, not the code docs
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Yep! It’s unfortunate that it’s not readily available. I think it could be done, just need to find certified electrical and plumbing inspectors willing to document it.
RV manufacturers have the luxury of building many of the same RV so it’s easy for them to get the first one validates and then the rest are just a checklist.
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09-15-2019, 08:04 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Absolutely irrelevant until you try to stay at RV parks that will not let you stay without an RVIA emblem on your bus.
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Except when the douche at the DMV says that you need one. Employee I mean.
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09-15-2019, 08:17 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
Yep! It’s unfortunate that it’s not readily available. I think it could be done, just need to find certified electrical and plumbing inspectors willing to document it.
RV manufacturers have the luxury of building many of the same RV so it’s easy for them to get the first one validates and then the rest are just a checklist.
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Unlikely. And still not going to count toward getting "certified" as in acquiring a sticker.
Personally I bet it's all lip service anyway, such organisations are funded by the big makers just as a marketing scheme, and to lobby against any gov measures that might hurt their profits.
If they had more clout they would just make DIY illegal
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09-15-2019, 08:25 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 61
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Papa "Rollin" Bone
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09-15-2019, 08:29 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john61ct
Unlikely. And still not going to count toward getting "certified" as in acquiring a sticker.
Personally I bet it's all lip service anyway, such organisations are funded by the big makers just as a marketing scheme, and to lobby against any gov measures that might hurt their profits.
If they had more clout they would just make DIY illegal
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Think the RVIA guys golf with the insurance guys? I do.
If you look at the construction of a factory RV, it’s got to make you wonder.
There’s the codes in the RVIA guidelines and then there’s the construction. I’ve dug into RV systems and I know they deviate.
We need a skoolie badge!
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09-15-2019, 08:29 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 61
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
I disagree. Most of those codes make installations safe. And many of those codes were created by boards that were created by or influence insurance companies, so to say your bus meets those codes says that you are just as insurable as those crappy RVs.
All of the codes are available. Only ones I haven’t been able to find without spending money are the ANSI standards.
We need our own lobby dammit!
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YES! Skoolies unite!
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09-15-2019, 08:32 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
Think the RVIA guys golf with the insurance guys? I do.
If you look at the construction of a factory RV, it’s got to make you wonder.
There’s the codes in the RVIA guidelines and then there’s the construction. I’ve dug into RV systems and I know they deviate.
We need a skoolie badge!
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They are bedfellows!
In cahoots (with someone)
In close, often secretive or conspiratorial cooperation with someone.
It turned out that the business tycoon was in cahoots with local law enforcement to have the investigation dropped.
We've been in cahoots with a company overseas who can produce the product for half the price.
See also: cahoots
Farlex Dictionary of Idioms. © 2015 Farlex, Inc, all rights reserved.
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