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09-24-2019, 08:30 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Our new/first Skoolie - 2004 Thomas FE Flat front
Hi all. Today marks the official start of our conversion. I found the bus in PA, but it came from an Air Force base in Texas. It’s got 28k miles and under 3k hours. No rust! We paid a premium for it compared to what most here have paid, but I wanted a solid platform to build our travel vehicle upon.
It’s so nice to finally have it here at home. I can now solidify plans and strategy.
Let the fun begin!
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09-25-2019, 03:59 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Sounds like you have a solid platform to build. Congratulations.
More pictures?
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09-25-2019, 04:11 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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I’m gonna snap some before pics today and get them posted here ASAP!
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09-25-2019, 11:12 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Interior before
Here’s a shot of the interior this morning.
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09-25-2019, 11:14 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Interior - No Seats
Here’s the interior at noon!
I highly recommend Milwaukee’s ‘Torch’metal blades. I used them on the Hackzall.
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09-25-2019, 11:21 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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The bus
Here are some picks of the exterior.
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09-25-2019, 11:33 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustynyc
Here’s the interior at noon!
I highly recommend Milwaukee’s ‘Torch’metal blades. I used them on the Hackzall.
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What’s likely to be beneath the rubber floor? Will it be the subfloor? I’m not sure I need to uncover it. Other than a compromised subfloor, are there any reasons to remove the rubber? I intend to foam atop it.
Also, has anyone cut out their seats and just left the bolt brackets in under the foam?
On this bus, they are so near the middle, that it’s highly unlikely they’ll interfere with anything that needs to go through the original subfloor. Please let me know if I’m missing anything I should consider further.
Thanks all!
Dusty
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09-25-2019, 11:52 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 375
Year: 2003
Chassis: Chevy cut-away 6-window shortie
Engine: 6.0L Gasser
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Folks typically remove the rubber and plywood subfloor to examine and repair the steel below. Plywood is a magnet for moisture, and even buses outside the "rust belt" have had rusted floor steel that's better to take care of when you can as a result.
Depending on your use and how long you plan to keep it, you may or may not want to go through this, but now's the time to do so!
Chris
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09-25-2019, 11:53 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 375
Year: 2003
Chassis: Chevy cut-away 6-window shortie
Engine: 6.0L Gasser
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By the way, nice bus!
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09-25-2019, 12:15 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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If you don’t want to remove the entire floor you could cut some pieces out of the plywood to see if there’s rust to fix. You’ll need to be really careful not to cut the steel. I used one of the oscillating multi tools. From the photos I’ve seen, around the wheel wells would be a good place to check.
If all looks good, glue the pieces back in their holes and you’re good to go.
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09-25-2019, 02:01 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,402
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Nice looking bus.
I think you did well buying from the Air Force base. That is one application that I believe the low miles.
I look forward to seeing your build.
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09-25-2019, 02:26 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Nice looking bus.
I think you did well buying from the Air Force base. That is one application that I believe the low miles.
I look forward to seeing your build.
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Thanks Steve. I appreciate that.
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09-26-2019, 01:10 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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The air Force sure did take care of that bus! The seats looked NEW. I hope you are going to find a good home for them.
As for the floor, the suggestion of sampling is a decent one, if you sample from the right spots. Personally, I would take it all out. An important place to look is in front of and behid the wheel wells. Also, at the top of the entry stairs and the back door.
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09-26-2019, 05:09 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
If you don’t want to remove the entire floor you could cut some pieces out of the plywood to see if there’s rust to fix. You’ll need to be really careful not to cut the steel. I used one of the oscillating multi tools. From the photos I’ve seen, around the wheel wells would be a good place to check.
If all looks good, glue the pieces back in their holes and you’re good to go.
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Seems like a solid approach. I’ll explore a few areas to make a determination as to whether or not the floor needs to come out to dress rust.
Thank you!
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09-26-2019, 05:16 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
The air Force sure did take care of that bus! The seats looked NEW. I hope you are going to find a good home for them.
As for the floor, the suggestion of sampling is a decent one, if you sample from the right spots. Personally, I would take it all out. An important place to look is in front of and behid the wheel wells. Also, at the top of the entry stairs and the back door.
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The back door is good. No rust at all. I’m gonna clean up that area treat with Por 15 and repaint.
The stairs are coming out because I’m moving the entrance door to the 4th window from the front. I’ll fabricate a storage compartment in their place and am thinking of moving the starting batteries there.
I’ll carefully examine the wheel wells as you and others suggest.
Thank you!
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09-26-2019, 05:51 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Free bus seats
Somebody mentioned the seats. I found them to be uncomfortable, dirty and unusable. I’d hoped to use the metal framing in future projects, but found the components to be too small to harvest for general use. That’s when I decided to cut them out. The attachment feet have been severed from the framing structure. The seats are headed to the dump.
If anyone has an interest in them (free) and lives near Putnam County NY (I know it’s not really upstate) message me for more info. They’ll be gone, either way, by Oct 10, 2019.
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09-26-2019, 11:01 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,721
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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those are some nice seats.. are they useable or are the frames cut-up? meaning were they unbolted or the legs cut off?
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09-26-2019, 11:20 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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Legs cut at the floor.
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09-26-2019, 11:28 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 46
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 48706
Engine: Cat3126/AD2000
Rated Cap: 28
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This morning the a/c ducts, evaporator covers and wire chases were removed.
I’ve got to get the a/c system discharged so I can get the evaporators out. The bus cannot be driven on the roads, and don’t see anyone nearby on Craigslist.
Can I call any HVAC tech or do they have to be automotive?
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09-26-2019, 11:43 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,402
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustynyc
This morning the a/c ducts, evaporator covers and wire chases were removed.
I’ve got to get the a/c system discharged so I can get the evaporators out. The bus cannot be driven on the roads, and don’t see anyone nearby on Craigslist.
Can I call any HVAC tech or do they have to be automotive?
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OH NOOO !!!!
That is the one feature missing on my bus.... If mine had ducted a/c I would consider it perfect...
It pains me to see folks removing road air... But, that is why we are all here. To build what we want individualy and not be stuck with what some guy in Elkhart thinks we need.
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