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11-23-2019, 01:23 PM
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#281
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Steve I hope you are more impressed with your spray foam insulation that I was with mine. I mean it's fine but I didn't find it to be worth the expense compared to XPS. Sucks about your batteries and break in damage, what's the deal with people trying to break into buses lately?
And of course, pics!
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11-23-2019, 02:42 PM
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#282
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Sucks to hear about the break in man.
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11-23-2019, 04:54 PM
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#283
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Steve I hope you are more impressed with your spray foam insulation that I was with mine. I mean it's fine but I didn't find it to be worth the expense compared to XPS. Sucks about your batteries and break in damage, what's the deal with people trying to break into buses lately?
And of course, pics!
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I have had enough damage done to parked and locked vehicles that most of the time I leave my vehicles unlocked and with nothing of value in sight.
I am really hoping that I can straighten the door. Unlike some others that have poorly sealing service entrance , mine was snug and sealed well.
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11-23-2019, 04:55 PM
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#284
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Steve I hope you are more impressed with your spray foam insulation that I was with mine. I mean it's fine but I didn't find it to be worth the expense compared to XPS. Sucks about your batteries and break in damage, what's the deal with people trying to break into buses lately?
And of course, pics!
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What is XPS?
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11-23-2019, 05:01 PM
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#285
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kidharris
What is XPS?
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Expanded Polystyrene, rigid foam board you can pick up at your local hardware store. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Owens-Co...20WE/207179253
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11-26-2019, 11:01 AM
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#286
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Salt Lake City Utah
Posts: 1,635
Year: 2000
Chassis: Blue Bird
Engine: ISC 8.3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
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The link does go to an example of XPS, but XPS is short for extruded polystyrene.
Expanded polystyrene (EPS) is the bead type, usually white in color -- the stuff used for hot drink cups, disposable coolers, and packaging for electronics. Also available in board form.
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11-26-2019, 11:05 AM
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#287
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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To me, skinning over the original bus windows does way more for heat retention than spray foam. If I end up skinning my windows I'd probably do 2" foam board depending on how much of the budget is left.
However if I can find a local contractor to do spray foam at a good price then I'd be all for it! Someone on the Skoolie FB group had a 40ft bus done at 1.5 inches for $750 which is the lowest I've ever seen for a spray foam job.
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11-26-2019, 11:08 AM
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#288
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: SW USA
Posts: 2,064
Year: 2003
Coachwork: IC / Amtran
Chassis: CE300
Engine: International T444e
Rated Cap: 23
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Sounds like you did well on the spray foam, price wise. So sucks to hear about the break-in, though. Some people are filth.
Am I to understand this was on the property of the spray foam installer? Do you have any recourse?
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11-26-2019, 11:49 AM
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#289
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by family wagon
The link does go to an example of XPS, but XPS is short for extruded polystyrene.
Expanded polystyrene (EPS) is the bead type, usually white in color -- the stuff used for hot drink cups, disposable coolers, and packaging for electronics. Also available in board form.
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You're right, I switched the two. The good stuff is pink or blue, not white!
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12-15-2019, 06:10 PM
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#290
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Insulation
Got the insulation sprayed and in the process of trimming it.
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12-15-2019, 06:50 PM
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#291
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Looking good. I hate how the pics always make them look so BIG. I looked at a bus today that looked quite different in person than the year old pics.
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12-15-2019, 07:56 PM
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#292
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Got the insulation sprayed and in the process of trimming it.
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Oh, man! That's progress!
congrats man, keep us up to date with PICS
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12-15-2019, 08:59 PM
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#293
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Rapid City, SD
Posts: 993
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: CS RE
Engine: ISC 8.3 L 260 hp
Rated Cap: 36
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Nice! It looks like the foam guy did a good job.
Ted
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12-15-2019, 09:11 PM
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#294
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Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Gulfport, MS
Posts: 154
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird All American Re
Engine: Cat 3126
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Insulation looks awesome. I am raising the roof on my 2000 BB AA RE right now and want to do spray foam insulation. Quick question, did you remove the "black tar" from the inside of the bus sheet metal and if so how did you remove it?
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03-30-2020, 02:55 PM
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#295
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHubbardBus
Sounds like you did well on the spray foam, price wise. So sucks to hear about the break-in, though. Some people are filth.
Am I to understand this was on the property of the spray foam installer? Do you have any recourse?
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It was parked on the street in front of their shop.
Recourse? Yeah, break out the Visa card..... The shop took no responsibility.
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03-30-2020, 02:57 PM
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#296
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bridg73988
Insulation looks awesome. I am raising the roof on my 2000 BB AA RE right now and want to do spray foam insulation. Quick question, did you remove the "black tar" from the inside of the bus sheet metal and if so how did you remove it?
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There was hardly any of it in my bus and it was so well adhered that i left it alone.
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03-30-2020, 03:09 PM
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#297
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Progress!
Albeit slow progress. I shed the back brace a couple of weeks ago but am not very mobile yet. But enough that we managed to get the floor framing and insulation done.
I screwed the 2x4s to the floor and laid them out so that I can screw the 1/2" plywood down to the 2x4s.
Next will be cutting grooves in the floor insulation to lat conduit across to carry electrical to the passenger side. Then plywood.
Last, I found a cool tool. I have used Kreg jigs to fasten 1/2" to 3/4" lumber for years. I found one scaled for fastening 2x lumber.
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03-30-2020, 11:21 PM
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#298
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Love it so far. Is there any reason why you didn't cut or install your windows before spray foam?
Also noticed your Bluebird has the curved driver's dash. Didn't realize that the 2002s had it, just assumed 2003 was the first year for that. Do you also have the rocker switch panels next to the drivers seat or is it the older pull buttons?
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03-31-2020, 12:58 PM
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#299
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WIbluebird
Love it so far. Is there any reason why you didn't cut or install your windows before spray foam?
Also noticed your Bluebird has the curved driver's dash. Didn't realize that the 2002s had it, just assumed 2003 was the first year for that. Do you also have the rocker switch panels next to the drivers seat or is it the older pull buttons?
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I didn't cut or install the windows yet because I have not picked out the windows yet. When I do put them in I will have to remove foam to accommodate framing for the windows.
My dash switches are all rockers.
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03-31-2020, 03:49 PM
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#300
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I didn't cut or install the windows yet because I have not picked out the windows yet. When I do put them in I will have to remove foam to accommodate framing for the windows.
My dash switches are all rockers.
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I've been debating if it's better to cut the window openings before installing the window skins. I have a buddy with access to a metal laser cutter but obviously it can only be done on a bench not when it's installed in the bus.
If someone near me is parting out a newer Bluebird I may look into snagging the curved dash pieces if a swap makes sense.
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