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10-26-2015, 10:50 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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Rocky Mountain High
I found a bus on Public Surplus.com:
Year: 1991
Make: Ward
Model: International
Mileage: 314,000
Running Condition: GOOD
Engine: DT466
Transmission: ALLISON MT643
Body Style: LONG/ 65 PAS
Tires: GOOD
Brakes: GOOD/ AIR BRAKES
RUNS GREAT SOLD AS IS!!!!
Condition: GOOD
It was in town, being sold by a school district, so it had been maintained. I got into a bit of a bidding war, but I won the auction for $2650 + 10%. I think that was a little high, compared to what I wanted to spend, but there were reasons I was willing to spend a little more:
It came from a school district, so it has been maintained, not sitting in a field.
It has an engine retarder
The engine is not electronic
The bus is from Colorado (not much mold or rust)
The bus is able to go up and down mountains
To pick up the bus I had to drive across town, not across Kansas or Oklahoma!
The back tires have about 70-75%. The front only have about 30%.
It also has some kind of an engine block heater that you can set a timer for and it heats up the engine in the morning.
It has three batteries.
As a bonus it came with two complete first aid kits, a body fluid clean up kit, and six collapsible road hazard triangles.
The only downside is that the mileage is high.
I am amazed at the records the school keeps. EVERY SINGLE THING that was done was documented, from a new tire to a new bulb.
I am already in love with ol' 49.
The only thing I wanted but did not get was storage under it, but I reckon that can be built later.
I've already taken out six seats and 5/6 of three more.
My dog loves to lay on the brown vinyl seats in the sun.
I have been waiting for this for over 10 years and I've finally done it! I am very stoked!
I tried to upload some pics, but I keep getting an error.
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10-26-2015, 11:11 PM
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#2
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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It sounds like you paid a fair price. You got a retarder and a MT643. The days of $800 buses are gone unless it's a pile of crap.
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10-27-2015, 12:04 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Gainesville. Georgia
Posts: 544
Year: 1992
Coachwork: bluebird
Rated Cap: 72
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10-27-2015, 12:36 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,697
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I saw that one!
Nice score, I like my Ward a whole lot.
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10-27-2015, 08:05 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Sounds like a really sweet combination. Congrats. With that many miles I would have a diesel tech check it out just to be on the safe side but that motor can easily make a half-million miles if well maintained.
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10-29-2015, 09:42 PM
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#6
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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This was the pic I made to motivate me to keep my focus on saving money!
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10-29-2015, 09:45 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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The view of the Peak on Bus Day!! Ready for the snow to come on down the mountain.

Here she is sitting at the bus yard
Ol' Number 49
Here she is sitting at the bus yard
Title in Hand!
I literally have no clue how to drive a bus!
I made it home in one piece!
She loves the bus! Especially when the sun is shining on the brown seats and she can sleep.
The view out my kitchen window
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10-29-2015, 09:50 PM
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#8
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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I'm pretty stoked that I figured out how to post pictures!
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10-29-2015, 09:53 PM
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#9
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 11
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I hope your fabrication skills are better than your photoshop skills
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10-29-2015, 11:27 PM
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#10
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by megapiment
I hope your fabrication skills are better than your photoshop skills 
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Are you saying the pictures aren't real? Say it isn't so.
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10-29-2015, 11:34 PM
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#11
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Sounds like a really sweet combination. Congrats. With that many miles I would have a diesel tech check it out just to be on the safe side but that motor can easily make a half-million miles if well maintained.
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I just went through all of the maintenance records and discovered it only has 290,000 not 340,000! I just saved 50K miles!
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10-30-2015, 02:16 AM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,697
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I love the roofline of these Ward/AmTran buses!
My 92 has just shy of a quarter mill on the odo and runs like a top. No smoke, easy start ups, pulls really well for only 190 hp and 40 feet of bus.
Looks like you got a pretty good bus to start with, congrats!
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04-10-2016, 11:24 PM
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#13
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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I have a blog where I post updates to my bus. Feel free to browse around... Karr Family Kamping Bus
Karr Family Kamping Bus
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06-02-2016, 07:50 PM
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#14
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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I have decided upon a name: The Honey Badger!
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06-02-2016, 07:56 PM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 17,832
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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the name is the most important part of the bus!! really I swear!!
-Christopher
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06-02-2016, 09:25 PM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,697
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by karrlot
I have decided upon a name: The Honey Badger!
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I love it!
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06-02-2016, 10:20 PM
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#17
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: near Christiansburg VA
Posts: 692
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 44 or 66? 11 rows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by megapiment
I hope your fabrication skills are better than your photoshop skills 
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Redid it for you:
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06-03-2016, 09:44 AM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 17,832
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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wow thats cool!!! even made tire tracks to back it into the space  nice work!
-Christopher
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06-03-2016, 12:16 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: near Christiansburg VA
Posts: 692
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 44 or 66? 11 rows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
wow thats cool!!! even made tire tracks to back it into the space  nice work!
-Christopher
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Thanks! ...especially for noticing the flattened grass. I was dancing when it came out the way I envisioned.
I restore/retouoch photos as a side business, and can't resist opportunities like this. (See also the dog in the roof exit in my avatar.)
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09-25-2016, 01:20 PM
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#20
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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