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Old 05-23-2016, 01:41 PM   #361
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What did you use to remove the tar?

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Old 05-23-2016, 01:42 PM   #362
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The hero of the day- a FREE can of penetrating lube.
My normal brand is the venerable PB Blaster, but this stuff did the trick once it had time to get worked in. Will clean everything up and lube the cables and everything up properly, I just needed to find out what/where the problem was.
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Old 05-23-2016, 01:45 PM   #363
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What did you use to remove the tar?
Its all in the thread, somehwere, but I used lots of manpower at first, then got wise and used aircraft stripper. Then took a wire wheel drill attachment and cleaned em all up for the primer.
Was a LOT of work, but it'll be worth it in the long run.

Note to anyone following along or thinking about using stripper-
DO NOT use Rustoleum brand stripper. Its utter BS! Doesn't work worth a flup.


Use this stuff-This stuff is AWESOME, but you do need to be careful as its dangerous to get it on you or breathe the fumes. Its easy to neutralize and to work with, though.
I normally love rustoleum products as you all probably are well aware, but their stripper product isn't worth a DAMN.
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Old 05-23-2016, 01:51 PM   #364
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Nice to see your progress. Can't wait until you actually start your build out!

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Old 05-23-2016, 01:55 PM   #365
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The ceiling looks CLEAN!

I hope i never have to do anything more that change fluids on my monster...
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Old 05-23-2016, 02:00 PM   #366
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Nice to see your progress. Can't wait until you actually start your build out!

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Thanks man, honestly I kinda need a bit of encouragement sometimes. Even a tiny bit can go a long ways.

I've been stockpiling all the things I need. Got everything free or on sale cheap but no junk. Appliances mostly all free from an impounded RV, really rad bathroom sink, lots of plywood and lumber, lots of steel, tools... I've been accumulating this stuff for a couple years.
I've gotten a few comments before on how "long" my build is taking, but I'm doing it the hard way and I'm in no rush. I've had the bus for something like 18 months. Once the roof is raised, I'm going to focus on the bodywork and some mechanical stuff. Then the interior build out will commence!
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Old 05-23-2016, 02:03 PM   #367
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If anyone in FL knows (or IS) a good diesel mechanic, I'd love to get some help when that time comes!
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Old 05-23-2016, 03:31 PM   #368
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That is a very nice looking job on the roof.
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Old 05-23-2016, 03:54 PM   #369
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I know how you feel on the stockpiling. My dad told me to hurry up with my floor and raise so he can have his shop back. I have all of my electrical, plumbing, bed mattress (12" queen memory foam on sale), paint, insulation, tanks, etc etc. Just need to take a month off of work and get a serious booty moovin' to get it so I can start my install. I'll have the new metal in place by the end of July. It's hard to work 40 hours in 4 days then drive 7 hours only to get 1 day of work done on it!

Keep going bruh! It's coming along!!
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Old 05-26-2016, 03:26 PM   #370
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That is a very nice looking job on the roof.
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I know how you feel on the stockpiling. My dad told me to hurry up with my floor and raise so he can have his shop back. I have all of my electrical, plumbing, bed mattress (12" queen memory foam on sale), paint, insulation, tanks, etc etc. Just need to take a month off of work and get a serious booty moovin' to get it so I can start my install. I'll have the new metal in place by the end of July. It's hard to work 40 hours in 4 days then drive 7 hours only to get 1 day of work done on it!

Keep going bruh! It's coming along!!
Thanks, dude. Your situation sounds rough! Hell, I get irritated that I have to keep my bus 20 mins from my place!

I'm getting the ball rolling on getting everything together now to get this roof raise done. I've sent inquiry emails to some shops to get an idea of what I'm gonna have to pay to get a nice cap made for the front where the transition will be. Pretty much like Aaron's. Still debating but may put one in the rear too. Will think about that and wait to see what the estimates will be.
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Old 05-26-2016, 04:24 PM   #371
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your ceiling looks great!!!

my hand throttle is messed up too.. must be a DT thing... I havent even yet found the cable under the hood.. theres a reason the knob was missing off the dash.. likely cable frozen up and someone yanked the knob..

I found 2 exhaust bolts missing completely on mine.. maybe check to make sure yours are tight.. I know these DT's vibrate everything thats not bolted down and some things that are!!

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Old 05-26-2016, 06:24 PM   #372
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your ceiling looks great!!!

my hand throttle is messed up too.. must be a DT thing... I havent even yet found the cable under the hood.. theres a reason the knob was missing off the dash.. likely cable frozen up and someone yanked the knob..

I found 2 exhaust bolts missing completely on mine.. maybe check to make sure yours are tight.. I know these DT's vibrate everything thats not bolted down and some things that are!!

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Mines not too bad in terms of vibration.
Yeah, I think these hand throttles are probably a known PITA. I've wondered what would be involved with getting an ACTUAL hand throttle setup. Could be pretty nice, IDK. I've no experience with them, but I know there are ways to do it. I've seen RV's setup for a paraplegic. Just something I've thought about, I doubt I'll ever do that or anything.
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:57 AM   #373
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Gonna put in an order for some 3/16" and 1/4" closed end rivets this week and start out using them to rivet on some panels over the holes left from the roof hatches, vent, and strobe.

Can't wait to try out the HF riveter.
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Old 05-31-2016, 08:51 AM   #374
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i finballty found my hand throttle... I searched for over an hour under the hood.. then finally grabbed the book and its just a cable going right to the pedal... how easy is that...

are you just metaling over your roof hatch? or putting an A/C in the spot? I have one hatch and it leaks .. trying to figure out what to do with it.. if i should just change it or try to seal it...

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i finballty found my hand throttle... I searched for over an hour under the hood.. then finally grabbed the book and its just a cable going right to the pedal... how easy is that...

are you just metaling over your roof hatch? or putting an A/C in the spot? I have one hatch and it leaks .. trying to figure out what to do with it.. if i should just change it or try to seal it...

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I posted pics, lol, thought you knew that the hand throttle was just a cable.

The hatches on school buses are utter junk. I'm paneling over and installing powered roof vents. "Fantastic" vents.
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Old 05-31-2016, 09:50 AM   #376
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IO knew the hand throttle ewas just a cable but IO thought it went to the throttle blade under the hood and not just the pedal in the cab... my fix is easy as the cable installed is just a bit rusty.. since the knob was pulled off the dash it hadnt been used on a while.. so little penetrating lubricant at each end and its actually moveable now...

do they make those vented hatches in the same size as the standard hatch? 14 x 14 I think mine is?

though I have A/C maybe I dont need a vent at all..

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IO knew the hand throttle ewas just a cable but IO thought it went to the throttle blade under the hood and not just the pedal in the cab... my fix is easy as the cable installed is just a bit rusty.. since the knob was pulled off the dash it hadnt been used on a while.. so little penetrating lubricant at each end and its actually moveable now...

do they make those vented hatches in the same size as the standard hatch? 14 x 14 I think mine is?

though I have A/C maybe I dont need a vent at all..


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Here in FL, I need the vents desperately. They're 14x14.
School bus hatches are like 22" inside and 26" outside, approximately. Not sure on the actual measurements but something close.
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Old 06-01-2016, 02:51 PM   #378
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I've been calling and emailing around and haven't found ANYONE at all to do the front cap. Was hoping there'd be a willing sheet metal shop. Nah, all the ones around here simply sell roofing and call themselves "custom sheet metal" shops.
May have to actually get creative. Hoping Mudda Earth will post up a vid and save the day on this one!
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:13 PM   #379
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Look for old school HVAC sheetmetal shops. Not residential.
Or PM me.
They 43-yr old company I worked for closed there door's at Christmas but I still have full access to all of there sheetmetal fab shop/weld shop and all as long as we can plan it and it usually don't cost me anything but the material.
It will cost you material and shipping or you can make a trip to n.c. and get exactly what you want by helping me help you and pay for the material and your away from home expense.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:28 PM   #380
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i worked in commercial HVAC in the 90s.. I didnt touch sheet metal but even then we were starting t oget away from custom fab and were using pre-made factory parts on installs..

there should be some shops around but so many parts now are made modular that companies build them less and less.. still a good thought though as a place to try though to get the piece made..

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