Rusty 87 build thread

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Native

There is a simple press-in union under the seat cusion. You use your thumbnail topull back the ring at the edge towards the body, then pull the hose right out. They are pneumatic couplers.

Aha, I completely misremembered your directions. I was trying to pull the green ring away from the body (I assume you mean the body of the coupler here) and it wasn't doing anything.

[Native]

Originally Posted by musigenesis

Aha, I completely misremembered your directions. I was trying to pull the green ring away from the body (I assume you mean the body of the coupler here) and it wasn't doing anything.

Right, the body of the coupler. Ol' Trent's suggestion about pushing the hose in helps the stubborn ones. The golf tee is so that you can keep from emptying the air tank ... but I surmised you knew this.

[musigenesis]

[Native]

Looks like you have been busy with the Ospho!


Still have not figured out the pneumatic union?

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Native

Looks like you have been busy with the Ospho!


Still have not figured out the pneumatic union?

Yeah, I have not figured out the union. I'm trying to get the bare minimum on the front here done so I can remount the seat and drive over to my house to weld the patches on and fabricate the mounting for the transit van seat, and I can do that with the hose still connected. I have this fear of breaking some fiddly little plastic gadget and stranding myself. Probably when I'm ready to do the final painting on everything I'll disconnect the hose to make my life easier.

[musigenesis]

Ospho has done all the work!



Ha ha, nope!



Is this a 2" bolt or a 2¼" bolt?



At least I can tell these are Grade 8.



These through-bolts for the seat itself are slightly asymmetrical (closer to the right than the left in this pic) and I know I am going to screw up the recess holes for these in the new plywood base.



First time I've seen anything resembling steel on this part behind the floor seam.



Once I have the seat back up and out of the way, I'm going to have to rig something to get in under this pedestal piece from the back so I can at least clean it and ospho and paint it to whatever extent I can.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by Phatman

Oh man, why is just sitting? I know, I know.... LIFE !! It’s not rusting down is it?

no its dusty but its been in parents garage 20+ years. Probably have 25k in it over the course of owning it. Gonna be pulling it out in the next week or two, should be fun. Plan to get it ready to use as a weekend driver.

[Native]

Originally Posted by musigenesis

Ospho has done all the work!

Attachment 43435

Ha ha, nope!

Attachment 43438

Is this a 2" bolt or a 2¼" bolt?

Attachment 43436

At least I can tell these are Grade 8.

Attachment 43437

These through-bolts for the seat itself are slightly asymmetrical (closer to the right than the left in this pic) and I know I am going to screw up the recess holes for these in the new plywood base.

Attachment 43439

First time I've seen anything resembling steel on this part behind the floor seam.

Attachment 43440

Once I have the seat back up and out of the way, I'm going to have to rig something to get in under this pedestal piece from the back so I can at least clean it and ospho and paint it to whatever extent I can.

I'll let you slide concerning the pneumatic union ... but I reserve the right to bug you about it later.


That is a 2" bolt you are showing. A little wire brush work and it will be good to go


The installation ... I was lucky in that I had refurbished floor with NO holes to work with or try to match up. This made it easy I put the plate on the floor where I wanted it, then drilled through the mounting holes and through the floor. It all lines up well ... mostly. On one of two seats, I had one hole out of place. That was fixed with a little drill reaming of the holes in the floor. Oh, I did not mention that I was going through the flooring, the subfloor, and the sheetmetal floor.


SOwhat's holding you up for removing the mounting bracket that is on the floor?

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Native

I'll let you slide concerning the pneumatic union ... but I reserve the right to bug you about it later.


That is a 2" bolt you are showing. A little wire brush work and it will be good to go


The installation ... I was lucky in that I had refurbished floor with NO holes to work with or try to match up. This made it easy I put the plate on the floor where I wanted it, then drilled through the mounting holes and through the floor. It all lines up well ... mostly. On one of two seats, I had one hole out of place. That was fixed with a little drill reaming of the holes in the floor. Oh, I did not mention that I was going through the flooring, the subfloor, and the sheetmetal floor.


SOwhat's holding you up for removing the mounting bracket that is on the floor?

Ha, no chance of me getting that bracket up. It's bolted and welded all around the edges, with the bolt heads spot welded so they won't turn, as well.

[musigenesis]

This new piece is just big enough to fit under the seat pedestal. I'm going to cut a separate smaller piece and bolt it on in front of this to provide a small footrest. Otherwise this floor bracket that the seat is bolted to will be left exposed.

[Native]

I thought you said there were 9 bolts holding the seat plate to the bracket. I see the four holes for the bolts that hold the plate to the seat assembly and I see 7 holes for the attachment to the bracket. Are there two holes missing?

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Native

I thought you said there were 9 bolts holding the seat plate to the bracket. I see the four holes for the bolts that hold the plate to the seat assembly and I see 7 holes for the attachment to the bracket. Are there two holes missing?

I can't count too good, apparently. There are actually 8 bolts that attach the seat base to the pedestal (I was thinking 3x3 but there's no bolt in the middle, of course). I realized this after a frantic search for the "missing" ninth bolt. There are only 7 holes around the outside because the slot into the middle goes through one of the outer holes.

[Native]

Originally Posted by musigenesis

I can't count too good, apparently. There are actually 8 bolts that attach the seat base to the pedestal (I was thinking 3x3 but there's no bolt in the middle, of course). I realized this after a frantic search for the "missing" ninth bolt. There are only 7 holes around the outside because the slot into the middle goes through one of the outer holes.

LOL . Here I thought I was the one that could not count.

[musigenesis]

I found the chaise I've been looking for for my bus. Unfortunately it's this: https://www.amazon.com/Target-Market...dp/B07YYX6WGS/. I'm not paying $450 for a mutant couch.

[Native]

Wow! $450.00 .....

[banman]

After what else we've seen you do I'm gonna say you can make your own chaise too with built in storage to perfectly fit where you want it.

If you use plywood, buy your own upholstery -- it's really easy to pull and staple the upholstery over the plywood. After you've got your cushions -- the hardest part of the build I think is making fitted covers for the cushions. Feel around, I'm sure you'll find there are people who sew well, that will take your money -- you'll find all the 4"x 4" hardwood to make the legs inside a pallet being thrown away...

[musigenesis]

Test-mounted my transit van seat to a piece of plywood so I could measure off the clearance I'll need in the bus and make sure I know how to work the seat (never used one before). Happy to see that it basically rocks forward to come out; if it went backwards I'd need even more clearance behind the seat.





Just ordered all the bolts, nuts and drill bits I'll need for mounting the brackets in the bus. Some of it is scheduled to arrive in mid-May. Oh well, plenty of nasty work on the underside to keep me busy in the meantime, and I may start building my bulkhead wall now that I can figure out exactly where the seat is going to be.

[Native]

Those seats do look nice. Not much padding, so not for real long trips?


It must feel real good to be able to move it about and see how it looks and feels actually INSIDE your bus. Congratulations!

[Frochevy]

I had looked at some transit seats. I ended up going with shuttle bus seats of some sort with built belts as well. It's what I could find at the time. I kind of wish mine had the quick remove feature though!!

[musigenesis]

Originally Posted by Native

Those seats do look nice. Not much padding, so not for real long trips?


It must feel real good to be able to move it about and see how it looks and feels actually INSIDE your bus. Congratulations!

Thanks! They're actually pretty well-padded, but the main source of discomfort would be that they don't recline at all and they're so narrow. Maybe a single small person could be comfortable for a long trip, but two adults would be rough, much worse than airplane seating. I'm going to build a removable sort of desk/tray for these seats and also a footrest, so at least the person could get some work done.

Apparently there's a slightly wider variant of these where the seat backs actually recline, but likely this would take up too much space for my layout (especially the width).