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Old 08-21-2020, 02:44 PM   #1261
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Old 08-21-2020, 11:26 PM   #1262
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Might be nice to have natural light to read by .....
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Old 08-22-2020, 05:58 AM   #1263
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Might be nice to have natural light to read by .....
I have a Kindle. YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE ME REGRET DELETING THIS, AREN'T YOU?!?!
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Old 08-22-2020, 10:34 PM   #1264
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Now that you mention it .... no.
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Old 08-23-2020, 08:49 PM   #1265
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Interesting jig for getting a quick template of a curved surface (jig starts at 14:11):



For a boat project but this could measure the curve on a skoolie roof pretty well.
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Old 08-23-2020, 11:01 PM   #1266
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Interesting jig for getting a quick template of a curved surface (jig starts at 14:11):



For a boat project but this could measure the curve on a skoolie roof pretty well.
Neat video. I imagine the jig method for a bus roofline a lot of little bitty sections.


I have seen another method ... hold (or better clamp/screw/tape) a piece of cardboard or light wood which extends the length of the area to be matched perpendicular to the surface. Then, Use a stick with a pen/pencil attached to the end of the stick to trace the roof onto the cardboard/wood piece. I suppose you could drill a hole in the stick just big enough to get your pencil in and hold it.


I was going to try and draw some ASCII-art to demonstrate ... way too involved.


It is tough to describe, but looks easy to implement.
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Old 08-24-2020, 10:04 AM   #1267
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I've been thinking about this issue with regard to fitting constructed internal walls I might want to build on my bus for a bathroom wall. For an experienced carpenter this is a no-brainer. For an inexperienced no-brainer carpenter like me it's an issue. Your post got me to searching and here's a link to a very basic primer about this - assuming this is what you mean.

For scribing for something as large as the bus roof you'd have to scale up your compass but I don't think that's a big deal. On the other hand, I expect there's an easier way to do it, you just have to find the person that knows how.

https://www.familyhandyman.com/proje...a-perfect-fit/
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:04 PM   #1268
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Good link, thank you.
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Old 08-24-2020, 08:31 PM   #1269
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Little router accident. Somehow I didn't notice my inadequately-clamped guide wandering a half inch off line. Easy fix with filler, fortunately.

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I mathed badly here and made the window frame a half inch too tall, but fortunately that was also easily fixed.

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My steel door is 1" thick and hinged on the cab side, and the door itself will be 2.25" thick, so the inside corner is 3.5" back from the hinge point. The edge of the door will be flush with the jamb (about a 1/8" gap) so the door would stick on opening if I made the jamb perfectly perpendicular, so I'm angling it 5.5" off the perpendicular so the door will open smoothly. I gave it a test run and it looks like I calculated the angle exactly right.

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Much notching of this piece to go over the three metal stop tabs and to allow the latch mechanism to catch the wall.

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Since side the jamb is at a 5.5 degree angle, the dado for the top jamb was a little tricky. I didn't free hand it but it was close.

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Used 2X instead of 1X for the short pieces joining the window frame to the jamb.

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Ready for painting.

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Old 08-25-2020, 10:02 AM   #1270
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Neat video. I imagine the jig method for a bus roofline a lot of little bitty sections.


I have seen another method ... hold (or better clamp/screw/tape) a piece of cardboard or light wood which extends the length of the area to be matched perpendicular to the surface. Then, Use a stick with a pen/pencil attached to the end of the stick to trace the roof onto the cardboard/wood piece. I suppose you could drill a hole in the stick just big enough to get your pencil in and hold it.


I was going to try and draw some ASCII-art to demonstrate ... way too involved.


It is tough to describe, but looks easy to implement.
Kinda makes you want to build a boat, huh ??
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Old 08-25-2020, 10:20 AM   #1271
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Kinda makes you want to build a boat, huh ??
LOL! I frequently (almost daily) question my sanity for taking on this bus build, a boat would be many times worse simply because buses don't sink in the middle of the ocean.
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Old 08-25-2020, 01:25 PM   #1272
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LOL! I frequently (almost daily) question my sanity for taking on this bus build, a boat would be many times worse simply because buses don't sink in the middle of the ocean.



I'm pretty sure that mine would sink in the middle of the ocean. In fact, I don't think mine will make it off the beach. LOL
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Old 08-25-2020, 06:49 PM   #1273
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Primed the door. I know I complain about painting expanded sheet a lot, but just try it (with a brush) and see how miserable it is. It takes forever, paint gets flicked all over the place, and it's impossible to get complete coverage. Bonus points for the sun making it impossible to see what I'm even painting. I missed out on a great CL deal on 10 sheets of expanded for $200, but the worst part is that it was already painted, too, and would have saved me a huge amount of trouble. Since I prefabbed these walls, I could have easily painted them while they were still outside, but I figured I would still have to weld a bunch of stuff on them so I left them bare.

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Tyvek house tape. I meant to use this on all my foam board seams, but I forgot to do it on the floor.

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Almost forgot to put the weatherstripping on the window frame first.

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Lot of gaps on this side, as much as 1/8" in places, and a couple of pieces cracked off. My fitment on this seems to be getting worse. I need to figure out some way to generate some thin slivers of foam board that I can push into the gaps.
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:09 PM   #1274
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Cut it with a hacksaw blade wrapped in a rag as a handle--or buy the blade holding tool.
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That's a good idea, I will try that.
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:28 AM   #1276
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I use a thin, long-bladed kitchen knife ... and keep it sharp. It cuts through the Corning Pink XPS board very easily. I had to do some "shimming" when I installed the flooring insulation. It cut so easily with the knife.


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Old 08-26-2020, 07:45 PM   #1277
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I use a thin, long-bladed kitchen knife ... and keep it sharp. It cuts through the Corning Pink XPS board very easily. I had to do some "shimming" when I installed the flooring insulation. It cut so easily with the knife.


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Looks like a fish fillet knife.


I think the pros use a hot wire. (thin wire stretched tight on a bow saw type frame and hooked up to a dc battery charger or battery)
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Old 08-26-2020, 09:58 PM   #1278
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It does look like a fish fillet knife. It is actually one I got from my grandfather many years ago. It used to be a standard kitchen knife that has been sharpened to the shape you now see. I think it was once a meat carving knife.
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Old 08-27-2020, 12:10 AM   #1279
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It does look like a fish fillet knife. It is actually one I got from my grandfather many years ago. It used to be a standard kitchen knife that has been sharpened to the shape you now see. I think it was once a meat carving knife.
what is the handle made of?
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Old 08-27-2020, 02:14 AM   #1280
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what is the handle made of?
Some sort of heavy-duty plastic. It seems almost indistructable!
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