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12-10-2020, 08:26 PM
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#1541
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Chassis: Freightliner FS65
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Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Originally Posted by musigenesis
Thanks, it does look so much better. The downside is that I've run out of places in the bus where I can cart gloppy stuff like paint and gasoline and seam sealer around; need to rig up a box behind my seat or something. Suddenly I need to actually care about where I put stuff.
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I totally understand. I had to stop using ours as a mobile painting booth.
I now have a 5'x3'x3' wooden box we picked up for free off CraigsList which holds all those pesky (and potentially messy) things, plus a whole lot more.
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12-11-2020, 04:41 PM
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#1542
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
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12-12-2020, 12:18 AM
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#1543
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Are you going to cut curved pieces of XPS for that wheelhouse?
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12-12-2020, 07:11 AM
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#1544
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Bus Geek
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Originally Posted by Native
Are you going to cut curved pieces of XPS for that wheelhouse?
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No, the insulation will be squared with that box over it. I thought about ways to make the whole structure conform to the curvature of the well, but it would have been extra work to utilize two small, inconvenient spaces.
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12-12-2020, 06:57 PM
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#1545
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
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You can always toss in all the little bits and pieces from installing the rest of the XPS.
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12-12-2020, 09:29 PM
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#1546
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Bus Geek
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12-12-2020, 09:31 PM
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#1547
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Bus Geek
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12-12-2020, 09:38 PM
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#1548
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
You can always toss in all the little bits and pieces from installing the rest of the XPS.
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It's funny, I have generated an enormous amount of XPS dust from the table saw in my shop and I think it would be pretty effective as insulation if you packed it into a cavity and blocked it up - as long as it didn't settle over time and create voids, which it probably would.
As I mentioned, it occurred to me that I could/should have packed this box with some fiberglass insulation but I don't happen to have any at the house. The whole box is 2" XPS so it's as well-insulated as the rest of the bus, but it wouldn't have hurt to be slightly better insulated here.
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12-12-2020, 09:55 PM
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#1549
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Bus Geek
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Your build is looking more like a construction site every day.
It is bitter-sweet to cover up a piece of work knowing only you know what work is under it. At least you do know.
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12-14-2020, 07:07 PM
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#1550
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Bus Geek
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12-14-2020, 07:30 PM
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#1551
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Bus Geek
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It may look tiny, but if it does what it is supposed to do, then it is the right size.
I noticed that all your work on insulating the box raised the temperature 10 degrees!
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12-14-2020, 10:16 PM
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#1552
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
It may look tiny, but if it does what it is supposed to do, then it is the right size.
I noticed that all your work on insulating the box raised the temperature 10 degrees!
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Well, that and the space heater. I'm getting this guy for Christmas: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VT24CLK/ so we'll see how much toastier it can get. I just need to get an AC->DC transformer now so I can power it up.
I am ashamed to say I bought a 15-amp inlet. It was only $20 and an extension cord is probably all I'm going to see for a few years at least.
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12-14-2020, 10:27 PM
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#1553
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Bus Geek
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12-14-2020, 11:02 PM
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#1554
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Sandpoint, ID
Posts: 542
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Girardin Microbird MB-IV
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: 7.3 Diesel
Rated Cap: 25
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If I didn't spend so much time reading all your posts, I might actually accomplish something on MY bus! But then again if I didn't look at all your pictures, I wouldn't feel nearly as inadequate about my skills
Good job!
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12-14-2020, 11:24 PM
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#1555
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Aw ... now that is a great Christmas gift to yourself.
With regards to the 15A circuit ... you gotta do what makes sense at the time. Changing it at a later date should the 15A service not be sufficient will be simple enough.
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12-15-2020, 11:54 AM
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#1556
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Almost There
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 74
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: ISM 10.8L, B400R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
Well, that and the space heater. I'm getting this guy for Christmas: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VT24CLK/ so we'll see how much toastier it can get. I just need to get an AC->DC transformer now so I can power it up.
I am ashamed to say I bought a 15-amp inlet. It was only $20 and an extension cord is probably all I'm going to see for a few years at least.
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I am one more trusted review away from pulling the trigger on one of those too! Please keep us updated and I appreciate you taking the time to document this.
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12-15-2020, 02:36 PM
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#1557
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Bus Geek
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Can't do any more of this box-in without figuring out exactly where the tub is going to go.
And that means it's time to chop it. I probably stood there with the circular saw in my hand for a good five minutes before I went ahead and cut. This tub was almost $200.
Not too bad and I can easily clean up the cut.
This is where it will be once I excise about 6" and connect the two pieces. I'm going to glue them, then weld with a soldering iron, then glue and weld a reinforcing strip of acrylic on the back side, then finally some Dynatron-570 (the white variant) over the seam on the front side. It will definitely be visibly a seam, but I think it will look OK.
I'm going to finish the tub framing and then I will reconnect the tub pieces so I can be sure the tub ends up the right size.
Framing all screwed in place. The batten here is to keep everything aligned while I fit the XPS - the opposite side is slightly off because I didn't do this and once I tried to align everything with the plywood, the wedged-in XPS didn't allow any more shifting.
This may be my last post, since we have a snowpocalypse rolling over Philly tomorrow. Calling for 12"+ of snow.
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12-15-2020, 02:38 PM
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#1558
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Aw ... now that is a great Christmas gift to yourself.
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Actually, my parents are getting this for me! Per my instructions, of course, and with my Amazon Prime account. So I guess it actually is to myself.
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12-15-2020, 02:40 PM
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#1559
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peakbus
If I didn't spend so much time reading all your posts, I might actually accomplish something on MY bus! But then again if I didn't look at all your pictures, I wouldn't feel nearly as inadequate about my skills
Good job!
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I guess I'm doing you a favor, then!
Thanks for the kind words, makes me feel less inadequate about my skills. Now if I could just manage to do this stuff quickly ...
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12-16-2020, 12:12 AM
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#1560
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Re the tub: At least the piece you are to glue and solder is not a water HOLDING portion of the tub and is a watershed portion instead.
Re your skills: They are indeed top notch and your speed is incredible. I wonder every day how you can keep up with the thread, let alone the actual construction.
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