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Old 05-13-2021, 03:55 PM   #1901
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Installed the hooks on my desk and ceiling hardpoints.

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I had five nice pieces of maple dowel for this, but I managed to crack two of them by using a drill bit that I KNEW WAS TOO SMALL but used anyway.

I realized that I only need two pieces instead of three for these. Not sure which I like best, though.

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Had to pick up some poplar dowel to do the last one, so I'm going to paint these desk nunchuks instead of staining and polying them to match the teak desk.

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I will probably never get around to it, but I have some extra hardware for these and I want to build a test version that I can load up until it breaks, to find out how strong these actually are. The theoretically weakest component is the eye hooks which are rated for 115 pounds. The spring snaps are rated for 165, the quick links between each dowel are rated for 660 pounds, and the ceiling hooks are rated for 1000 pounds (the dowels themselves are good for at least 3000 pounds, at least when I haven't cracked them, so that's the last part I would expect to fail). I think I could maybe lie down on the desk but I don't feel like trying.

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Old 05-13-2021, 05:01 PM   #1902
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Installed the hooks on my desk and ceiling hardpoints.

I will probably never get around to it, but I have some extra hardware for these and I want to build a test version that I can load up until it breaks, to find out how strong these actually are. The theoretically weakest component is the eye hooks which are rated for 115 pounds. The spring snaps are rated for 165, the quick links between each dowel are rated for 660 pounds, and the ceiling hooks are rated for 1000 pounds (the dowels themselves are good for at least 3000 pounds, at least when I haven't cracked them, so that's the last part I would expect to fail). I think I could maybe lie down on the desk but I don't feel like trying.

I would suspect the connection/attachment to the ceiling/rib and/or the connection/attachment to the dowels? The 3000 lbs for the dowels is probably with them loaded in compression (like a post/column), not trying to pull the connector out of the end.
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Old 05-13-2021, 05:44 PM   #1903
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I would suspect the connection/attachment to the ceiling/rib and/or the connection/attachment to the dowels? The 3000 lbs for the dowels is probably with them loaded in compression (like a post/column), not trying to pull the connector out of the end.
The four #8 screws attaching the hook to the ceiling have a pullout force of about 180 pounds each (they're screwed into oak); the four into the teak desk a bit less, so I'd expect those to fail before the ceiling. I don't know the pull-out force of Teks wood-to-metal screws but it seems it's in the neighborhood of a few hundred pounds at least and the oak hardpoint is attached with six of them, so I suspect it's much more strongly attached to the ribs than the hook is to the hardpoint.

The 3000 pounds is a low estimate of the tension resistance (since they're not loaded in compression or bending at all here). I believe the pullout force of the eyehooks into wood is around 300 pounds, but I don't know whether their rated load of 115 means the hook will unbend (it's not welded closed) or that's the weight at which it pulls out of the wood (according to them) but adjusted with a safety factor of 2X or 3X. I was not able to center the holes in the dowels quite perfectly, so the asymmetrical load might cause the ends to crack and fail at a lower weight.

All estimates here, which is why I want to actually test it and see what gives out first.
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Old 05-13-2021, 08:46 PM   #1904
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This load test is an interesting question for couples or climbing kids. Is this still an activity bus? Because that looks like activity place, to us.

Or for you, a trap door when you knead it most.
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Or for you, a trap door when you knead it most.
D'oh! Sour, that is.
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:39 PM   #1906
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Decided to enlarge the opening under my sink. There's not going to be much bending in the middle of this, so the 2x6 is not really needed.

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Lashing my rolling cart in place until I figure out something more permanent.

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Still pretty small under-sink space, but better than before.

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My older iPod does not handle brightness differences at all well. My newer iPod was much better but it won't take a charge any more. Apple sucks.

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Old 05-15-2021, 03:20 PM   #1907
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Went into Home Depot today for the first time in a year and a half and enjoyed browsing around. Found the perfect material for the top part of my shower stall: this 1" thick pine step tread for $10. Perfectly flat and a lot stiffer than plywood. This was after almost accidentally buying a $120 poplar board that would not have worked anyway.

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Measure once, cut twice of course. I forgot about the 1" vertical part on the wall side. Back to Home Depot for another board.

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It's attached to the ceiling with 2.5" decking screws at a 45į angle from each side, up into the furring strips. This worked really well and it's how I will attach all my overhead storage bins, I think. Gives a perfectly solid connection even though it's not directly on a rib.

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And then a piece along the front to close the box. I will have to duck a little bit to get into the shower, but this will let me have a full-surround shower curtain with the track around the inside of this box, useful for keeping things dry since this isn't a real full-height shower stall.

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Had to sand off some excess from the bottom of the curved piece.

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Only hit my head on this exposed corner once - pretty good, I'd say.

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Old 05-15-2021, 03:21 PM   #1908
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Showed my brother the bus yesterday and he said "wow, you're almost done." I am of course nowhere near done but it felt good to think I sort of look that way.
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Showed my brother the bus yesterday and he said "wow, you're almost done." I am of course nowhere near done but it felt good to think I sort of look that way.
I'm with your brother, man. You've come such a long way from cutting out rusty flooring! It's looking good.
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Old 05-15-2021, 09:37 PM   #1910
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Old 05-18-2021, 05:52 PM   #1911
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Building my first overhead storage. This one was hard to get started on because I kept double-thinking everything I was going to do. My biggest issue was figuring out how to attach it firmly to the furring strips under the ceiling. I didn't put any oak hardpoints back here because I was even less sure of what I was going to do when I started putting the ceiling up last year.

I love this step tread material I'm using for this. It's perfectly straight and actually 1" thick instead of 0.75", so it makes screwing the corners together directly (without using angle brackets) much easier and stronger. And it's $10 for a 4'x12"x1" piece, not much more than 2x4s of the same volume, and easy to rip down into whatever size I need. Only problem is I cleaned out the local Home Depot.

The inset is so I can face this with my 5mm underlayment.

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I was able to do a chinup on this bar (I weigh around 190#) so I feel OK about its strength.

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I'm going to have about a 1.5" gap between this flat piece and the board in front of it, to keep the cabinet ventilated.

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I was considering welding up all my overhead storage out of steel and I'm glad I decided not to. It would have been so much more work and this looks better.
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I'm with your brother, man. You've come such a long way from cutting out rusty flooring! It's looking good.
What Drew said.

"Looking good, Mr. Kot-TER."
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What Drew said.

"Looking good, Mr. Kot-TER."
Thanks, man! Haven't seen you here in a while, glad you're back. Sad to say your bus is no longer my computer's wallpaper, which it was for more than a year. It was a good run.
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Old 05-18-2021, 10:23 PM   #1914
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Sad to say your bus is no longer my computer's wallpaper, which it was for more than a year. It was a good run.
How DARE you!

(......at least tell me it was replaced by a scantily-clad buxom blonde......).
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Old 05-18-2021, 10:26 PM   #1915
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How DARE you!

(......at least tell me it was replaced by a scantily-clad buxom blonde......).
Well, a scantily-clad yellow, at least:

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Added additional center supports.

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Top piece to which I'll attach the hinged door or doors.

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Extended one piece with a 3" addition. Screwed in the center and then just clamped at the ends so they'll stay together until they're screwed into the framing.

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This leaves a 1 3/8" gap for ventilation. This will just be for clothes so it will also let the moths at them.

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If it looks like there's a million screw holes here that's because there are. For unknown reasons, sometimes these framing screws just do not want to bite into this step tread material and they spin out.

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Additional center support.

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I also made an attempt at the end covering piece and was somehow off 1/2" in places. I will be very, very happy when I've cut the last piece of plywood to fit against the ceiling curve.
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:48 PM   #1917
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Polyurethaned the table nunchuks and painted the desk nunchuks.

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Started on the driver's side rear overhead storage.

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This one is 76" wide and the step treads are only 48" so I need to splice the material.

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Found this near-new chair on OfferUp for $30. Only problems are it doesn't go lower than 24" and it doesn't lean back. Chair hack time!

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Man you are rockin & rollin now !!! Iím diggin the progress !!
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Well, just rollin, anyway ... the chair doesn't rock.

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