Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 05-13-2021, 02:55 PM   #1901
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Installed the hooks on my desk and ceiling hardpoints.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0744.png
Views:	13
Size:	487.9 KB
ID:	57375

I had five nice pieces of maple dowel for this, but I managed to crack two of them by using a drill bit that I KNEW WAS TOO SMALL but used anyway.

I realized that I only need two pieces instead of three for these. Not sure which I like best, though.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0745.png
Views:	12
Size:	468.2 KB
ID:	57376

Had to pick up some poplar dowel to do the last one, so I'm going to paint these desk nunchuks instead of staining and polying them to match the teak desk.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0746.png
Views:	14
Size:	502.3 KB
ID:	57377

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0747.png
Views:	19
Size:	540.5 KB
ID:	57378

I will probably never get around to it, but I have some extra hardware for these and I want to build a test version that I can load up until it breaks, to find out how strong these actually are. The theoretically weakest component is the eye hooks which are rated for 115 pounds. The spring snaps are rated for 165, the quick links between each dowel are rated for 660 pounds, and the ceiling hooks are rated for 1000 pounds (the dowels themselves are good for at least 3000 pounds, at least when I haven't cracked them, so that's the last part I would expect to fail). I think I could maybe lie down on the desk but I don't feel like trying.

__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2021, 04:01 PM   #1902
Bus Crazy
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis View Post
Installed the hooks on my desk and ceiling hardpoints.

I will probably never get around to it, but I have some extra hardware for these and I want to build a test version that I can load up until it breaks, to find out how strong these actually are. The theoretically weakest component is the eye hooks which are rated for 115 pounds. The spring snaps are rated for 165, the quick links between each dowel are rated for 660 pounds, and the ceiling hooks are rated for 1000 pounds (the dowels themselves are good for at least 3000 pounds, at least when I haven't cracked them, so that's the last part I would expect to fail). I think I could maybe lie down on the desk but I don't feel like trying.

I would suspect the connection/attachment to the ceiling/rib and/or the connection/attachment to the dowels? The 3000 lbs for the dowels is probably with them loaded in compression (like a post/column), not trying to pull the connector out of the end.
kidharris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2021, 04:44 PM   #1903
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidharris View Post
I would suspect the connection/attachment to the ceiling/rib and/or the connection/attachment to the dowels? The 3000 lbs for the dowels is probably with them loaded in compression (like a post/column), not trying to pull the connector out of the end.
The four #8 screws attaching the hook to the ceiling have a pullout force of about 180 pounds each (they're screwed into oak); the four into the teak desk a bit less, so I'd expect those to fail before the ceiling. I don't know the pull-out force of Teks wood-to-metal screws but it seems it's in the neighborhood of a few hundred pounds at least and the oak hardpoint is attached with six of them, so I suspect it's much more strongly attached to the ribs than the hook is to the hardpoint.

The 3000 pounds is a low estimate of the tension resistance (since they're not loaded in compression or bending at all here). I believe the pullout force of the eyehooks into wood is around 300 pounds, but I don't know whether their rated load of 115 means the hook will unbend (it's not welded closed) or that's the weight at which it pulls out of the wood (according to them) but adjusted with a safety factor of 2X or 3X. I was not able to center the holes in the dowels quite perfectly, so the asymmetrical load might cause the ends to crack and fail at a lower weight.

All estimates here, which is why I want to actually test it and see what gives out first.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2021, 07:46 PM   #1904
Bus Crazy
 
DeMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,558
Coachwork: Integrated Coach Corp.
Chassis: RE-300 42ft
Engine: 466ci
Rated Cap: 90
This load test is an interesting question for couples or climbing kids. Is this still an activity bus? Because that looks like activity place, to us.

Or for you, a trap door when you knead it most.
__________________
Ceiling: Framing & Electrical Rough-in
Convert Hatch to AC & Roof Patch
🇺🇸 Frederick Douglass: "If there is no struggle, there is no progress.”
DeMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2021, 10:01 PM   #1905
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeMac View Post
Or for you, a trap door when you knead it most.
D'oh! Sour, that is.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2021, 04:39 PM   #1906
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Decided to enlarge the opening under my sink. There's not going to be much bending in the middle of this, so the 2x6 is not really needed.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0748.png
Views:	9
Size:	522.7 KB
ID:	57430

Lashing my rolling cart in place until I figure out something more permanent.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0749.png
Views:	9
Size:	538.5 KB
ID:	57431

Still pretty small under-sink space, but better than before.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0750.png
Views:	11
Size:	543.7 KB
ID:	57432

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0751.png
Views:	8
Size:	501.1 KB
ID:	57433

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0752.png
Views:	10
Size:	522.4 KB
ID:	57434

My older iPod does not handle brightness differences at all well. My newer iPod was much better but it won't take a charge any more. Apple sucks.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0753.png
Views:	11
Size:	454.2 KB
ID:	57435
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2021, 02:20 PM   #1907
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Went into Home Depot today for the first time in a year and a half and enjoyed browsing around. Found the perfect material for the top part of my shower stall: this 1" thick pine step tread for $10. Perfectly flat and a lot stiffer than plywood. This was after almost accidentally buying a $120 poplar board that would not have worked anyway.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0754.png
Views:	9
Size:	525.8 KB
ID:	57452

Measure once, cut twice of course. I forgot about the 1" vertical part on the wall side. Back to Home Depot for another board.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0755.png
Views:	8
Size:	453.5 KB
ID:	57453

It's attached to the ceiling with 2.5" decking screws at a 45° angle from each side, up into the furring strips. This worked really well and it's how I will attach all my overhead storage bins, I think. Gives a perfectly solid connection even though it's not directly on a rib.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0756.png
Views:	6
Size:	528.9 KB
ID:	57454

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0757.png
Views:	8
Size:	430.6 KB
ID:	57455

And then a piece along the front to close the box. I will have to duck a little bit to get into the shower, but this will let me have a full-surround shower curtain with the track around the inside of this box, useful for keeping things dry since this isn't a real full-height shower stall.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0758.png
Views:	8
Size:	502.7 KB
ID:	57456

Had to sand off some excess from the bottom of the curved piece.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0759.png
Views:	13
Size:	505.4 KB
ID:	57457

Only hit my head on this exposed corner once - pretty good, I'd say.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0760.png
Views:	12
Size:	467.2 KB
ID:	57458
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2021, 02:21 PM   #1908
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Showed my brother the bus yesterday and he said "wow, you're almost done." I am of course nowhere near done but it felt good to think I sort of look that way.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2021, 02:44 PM   #1909
Bus Crazy
 
Drew Bru's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Grayson County, VA
Posts: 1,428
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis View Post
Showed my brother the bus yesterday and he said "wow, you're almost done." I am of course nowhere near done but it felt good to think I sort of look that way.
I'm with your brother, man. You've come such a long way from cutting out rusty flooring! It's looking good.
__________________
Our Build: https://dazzlingbluebus.wordpress.com/
Drew Bru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2021, 08:37 PM   #1910
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Bru View Post
I'm with your brother, man. You've come such a long way from cutting out rusty flooring! It's looking good.
Thanks, man!
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2021, 04:52 PM   #1911
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Building my first overhead storage. This one was hard to get started on because I kept double-thinking everything I was going to do. My biggest issue was figuring out how to attach it firmly to the furring strips under the ceiling. I didn't put any oak hardpoints back here because I was even less sure of what I was going to do when I started putting the ceiling up last year.

I love this step tread material I'm using for this. It's perfectly straight and actually 1" thick instead of 0.75", so it makes screwing the corners together directly (without using angle brackets) much easier and stronger. And it's $10 for a 4'x12"x1" piece, not much more than 2x4s of the same volume, and easy to rip down into whatever size I need. Only problem is I cleaned out the local Home Depot.

The inset is so I can face this with my 5mm underlayment.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0761.png
Views:	25
Size:	566.8 KB
ID:	57588

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0762.png
Views:	22
Size:	487.4 KB
ID:	57589

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0763.png
Views:	17
Size:	485.5 KB
ID:	57590

I was able to do a chinup on this bar (I weigh around 190#) so I feel OK about its strength.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0764.png
Views:	21
Size:	458.0 KB
ID:	57591

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0765.png
Views:	17
Size:	422.2 KB
ID:	57592

I'm going to have about a 1.5" gap between this flat piece and the board in front of it, to keep the cabinet ventilated.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0766.png
Views:	21
Size:	494.6 KB
ID:	57593

I was considering welding up all my overhead storage out of steel and I'm glad I decided not to. It would have been so much more work and this looks better.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2021, 07:28 PM   #1912
Bus Crazy
 
plfking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Bru View Post
I'm with your brother, man. You've come such a long way from cutting out rusty flooring! It's looking good.
What Drew said.

"Looking good, Mr. Kot-TER."
__________________
Don

The Busted Flush
plfking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2021, 07:48 PM   #1913
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by plfking View Post
What Drew said.

"Looking good, Mr. Kot-TER."
Thanks, man! Haven't seen you here in a while, glad you're back. Sad to say your bus is no longer my computer's wallpaper, which it was for more than a year. It was a good run.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2021, 09:23 PM   #1914
Bus Crazy
 
plfking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis View Post
Sad to say your bus is no longer my computer's wallpaper, which it was for more than a year. It was a good run.
How DARE you!

(......at least tell me it was replaced by a scantily-clad buxom blonde......).
__________________
Don

The Busted Flush
plfking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2021, 09:26 PM   #1915
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by plfking View Post
How DARE you!

(......at least tell me it was replaced by a scantily-clad buxom blonde......).
Well, a scantily-clad yellow, at least:

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1006.png
Views:	13
Size:	612.4 KB
ID:	57602

__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2021, 07:47 PM   #1916
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Added additional center supports.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0767.png
Views:	11
Size:	488.2 KB
ID:	57638

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0768.png
Views:	10
Size:	431.2 KB
ID:	57639

Top piece to which I'll attach the hinged door or doors.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0769.png
Views:	9
Size:	435.3 KB
ID:	57640

Extended one piece with a 3" addition. Screwed in the center and then just clamped at the ends so they'll stay together until they're screwed into the framing.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0770.png
Views:	9
Size:	481.1 KB
ID:	57641

This leaves a 1 3/8" gap for ventilation. This will just be for clothes so it will also let the moths at them.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0771.png
Views:	9
Size:	416.1 KB
ID:	57642

If it looks like there's a million screw holes here that's because there are. For unknown reasons, sometimes these framing screws just do not want to bite into this step tread material and they spin out.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0772.png
Views:	13
Size:	484.4 KB
ID:	57643

Additional center support.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0773.png
Views:	15
Size:	473.5 KB
ID:	57644

I also made an attempt at the end covering piece and was somehow off 1/2" in places. I will be very, very happy when I've cut the last piece of plywood to fit against the ceiling curve.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2021, 07:48 PM   #1917
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Polyurethaned the table nunchuks and painted the desk nunchuks.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0774.png
Views:	12
Size:	626.1 KB
ID:	57789

Started on the driver's side rear overhead storage.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0775.png
Views:	11
Size:	434.0 KB
ID:	57790

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0776.png
Views:	12
Size:	419.1 KB
ID:	57791

This one is 76" wide and the step treads are only 48" so I need to splice the material.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0777.png
Views:	13
Size:	487.0 KB
ID:	57792

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0778.png
Views:	12
Size:	546.1 KB
ID:	57793

Found this near-new chair on OfferUp for $30. Only problems are it doesn't go lower than 24" and it doesn't lean back. Chair hack time!

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0779.png
Views:	13
Size:	560.4 KB
ID:	57794
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2021, 08:12 PM   #1918
Bus Nut
 
Phatman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Brazoria County, Texas
Posts: 819
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 32 Passenger
Man you are rockin & rollin now !!! I’m diggin the progress !!
Phatman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2021, 08:20 PM   #1919
Bus Geek
 
musigenesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phatman View Post
Man you are rockin & rollin now !!! I’m diggin the progress !!
Well, just rollin, anyway ... the chair doesn't rock.

Thanks, man.
__________________
Rusty 87 build thread
musigenesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2021, 09:44 PM   #1920
Bus Nut
 
Bert06840's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
Awesome, just joined this thread. Can’t wait to see more.
Bert06840 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
build thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.