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10-01-2014, 10:00 AM
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#101
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Hi,
Question regarding generators:
Is it safe to install non RV specific generators in a compartment in the bus (outside, underneath) as long as it is vented?
Thanks,
Tom
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10-01-2014, 10:56 AM
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#102
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 227
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Super Coach II, 36 Ft. RE
Engine: Cat 3208T, MT643
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Re: Generator.
I've been considering the same (I have a Powermate genny). Feedback I've received so far ranges from no way in H. E. double toothpicks (from the genny manufacturer) on one hand, to "add a fan and port the exhaust out the back" on the other.
I plan to install my generator as far towards the back of the bus as I can in a custom built under-floor exterior vented compartment, with sound insulation and a fan that will operate automatically when the generator is running. I'll weld on an oversize exhaust pipe (spark arrester not needed if pipe is long enough) and run it out the back or side, and line it up with a DIY Genturi to take the exhaust up above the roof line in back of the bus. I'm either going to have to put the unit on slide rails so that I can access the top mounted gas tank, or remove that tank and rig up a larger remote tank with fuel pump. I think the remote tank would be far safer with the generator operating in an enclosed space. Don't want to risk overheating the fuel.
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10-01-2014, 11:19 PM
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#103
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Mounting any generator needs proper exhausting. Regardless if it is an "rv" model or not. Get it as far away from the windows as possible and add a co2 detector as well. You don't need an er visit for monoxide poisoning!!!!
-Doc
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10-02-2014, 07:10 AM
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#104
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Thanks Doc, gottcha.
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10-03-2014, 02:00 PM
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#105
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
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10-04-2014, 07:11 PM
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#106
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Roger the BADAZZ!!!
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10-14-2014, 08:53 PM
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#107
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Well thankfully the duplicate title for the bus (The Nebuchadnezzar) I'm buying is supposed to come in this week! There is something that I'm not clear on: I will have house batteries and an inverter/ charger because I'm installing solar panels, for times when I would be connected to shore power would I be wanting to run 12v from a converter or would I run the 12v directly from the batteries? I can't seem to find the answer to this little question where ever I look.
Thank you
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10-14-2014, 09:33 PM
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#108
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,245
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
I run my 12v stuff from the batteries via a fuse box. I use the converter to charge the 12v batteries. The converter is powered by either shore or genny power. My converter is a 45 amp "Intell" "smartcharger" and so far it has done what is supposed to do. I'm sure you know this, but if you have an inverter (12v to 120v) don't use it to power your converter (120v to 12v) because it falls into the TANSTAAFL category Jack
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10-14-2014, 10:24 PM
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#109
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Thank you Jack
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10-25-2014, 07:56 AM
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#110
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Hi All,
Well still waiting for the Nebuchnezzar, seems that when First Student bought Laidlaw problems with bus titles occurred. So after over a month of waiting the fleet sales lady in Texas finally tracked someone down at CT DMV that says she can help with these affected buses and hopefully the Neb will have a title in about 2 weeks, UGH!
Anyway, I've seen Dickinson heaters that are designed for marine use being used in tiny houses and I was wondering if any of you use these heaters? I've seen them available in both propane and diesel. Seems like it could be a nice match for us diesel folks.
Tom
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~Morpheus
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10-25-2014, 10:51 AM
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#111
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Don't own one but I've been on sev eral boats that had marine diesel heaters. Worked great and was surprised at no diesel smell. The marine units are typically $$$$$$.
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11-06-2014, 02:30 PM
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#112
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Hi all,
Does anyone have experience with the Mercedes Benz MBE926 engine?
Thank you,
Tom
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~Morpheus
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11-06-2014, 02:39 PM
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#113
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
The early versions were great engines with good power, torque, and fuel economy.
The later smogged versions has a lot of issues, so many that M-B decided it wasn't worth the effort to get the engine to comply with the newer emissions standards.
Parts and pieces can be difficult to find locally. Most of the time you will need to wait for parts to come from the national distribution center.
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11-06-2014, 10:28 PM
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#114
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Almost There
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 92
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC/2000
Engine: Cummins 6CT8.3
Rated Cap: 76
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nebuchadnezzar
I've seen Dickinson heaters that are designed for marine use being used in tiny houses and I was wondering if any of you use these heaters? I've seen them available in both propane and diesel. Seems like it could be a nice match for us diesel folks.
Tom
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We'll be installing a dickinson p-9000 in the next couple months, I will let you know how it goes.
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11-07-2014, 07:20 AM
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#115
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Thank you cowlitzcoach, glad I asked.
Good luck with the Dickinson big_bertha, let me know how it goes
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11-07-2014, 09:22 AM
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#116
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Posts: 350
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American Rear Engine
Engine: C-8.3-300 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 40 Prisoners
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
On your electrical questions you might go to www.rvtechmag.com and check out their tech section on electrical. What you will want is a automatic charge controller which can take the output from your solar, shore power or alternator and maintain your batteries at proper charge. Magnum makes an inverter charger combo that will sense which item is being used for charging automatically. Some of the better charge controllers can produce regulated 12 volt power out of solar panels up to 42 volts. HTHs
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11-11-2014, 09:28 PM
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#117
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Hooray! First Student finally received the duplicate title for the bus I'm buying, with a little bit of luck I may be able to have it home by the end of the week, pics to follow.
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11-14-2014, 09:47 PM
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#118
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
The Nebuchadnezzar is home, it was dark when we got here so no pics till tomorrow. The journey begins...
MODEL YEAR 2003
PASSENGERS 71
WHEELCHAIRS 0
BODY TYPE Rear Engine Bus
CHASSIS TYPE International
TRANSMISSION TYPE 2000
FUEL TYPE Diesel
BRAKE TYPE Automatic
ENGINE T444E
MILEAGE 151356
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11-15-2014, 10:42 AM
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#119
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Laidlaw purchased hundreds of the IC RE buses with the T444(E).
It is okay for a route bus but is woefully underpowered out on the highway and on any kind of hill.
Since you have the E version there aren't a lot of upgrades you can do to your engine to get more go out of it.
Some of the Banks Engineering upgrades for the Ford Powerstroke will work on your engine including chips and turbo's if your engine does not have a turbo.
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11-15-2014, 06:35 PM
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#120
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 262
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 71
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Re: Searching for the nebuchadnezzar
Thank you cowlitzcoach I'll keep those upgrades in mind, don't think I'll be much of a hurry
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