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10-07-2009, 04:11 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Hey smitty...if you're serious about an elevator you might want to look into using garage door tracks. They are cheap, abundant, and easy to work with and I think 4 of them could do the trick. The biggest issue will be with making sure that the whole affair lifts evenly, but a set up similar to a 4 post car hoist should work out just fine. Harbor Freight sells a cheap 3000 lbs winch (I paid $60) that comes with a wireless remote that could be just the ticket.
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10-08-2009, 10:11 AM
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#22
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Haysville, Ks
Posts: 174
Year: 1969
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Chevrolet
Engine: 350 Chevrolet
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: Smitty's Bus
When you get the elevator done... your gonna have to make a Smitty Copperfield vid complete with a fog machine and lights for effect and you FLOATING up through the roof of your bus!! Maybe even some laser lights in there for effect too!!
Sorry, couldnt help it.
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10-08-2009, 08:51 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Posts: 31
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Re: Smitty's Bus
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Only other option would be a stairway inside the bus, and I don't want to lose the room, or have a large opening in the roof.
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how about an outside spiral stairway? hung to the back of your bus?
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10-09-2009, 10:55 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Posts: 31
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Re: Smitty's Bus
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My problem is stairs, period.
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an exterior elevator made from an electric picker's forklift? Build a nice platform where the forks are and it doubles as a nice rear deck or a motorcycle/scooter rack when you're on the road?
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10-10-2009, 07:53 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Were you planning on building a rear deck, Smitty?
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10-10-2009, 08:10 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: California, Just NorthEast of San Fransisco
Posts: 539
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Thats what I thought the forklift was for... Back deck and elevator to roof.
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10-11-2009, 12:25 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posts: 232
Year: 85
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Gas
Rated Cap: 66
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Love the idea of a lift Smitty. Couple things I have know about winches. You may too, but hey, no one had brought it up yet. I used to do a lot of rockcrawling/4x4 in my IH Scout II. I had a warn winch on the front. Those things dont operate quickly, so if you dont want to stand there for 2 minutes just to get up and down your gonna have to retool the pulley system. Also....they use a TON of power. I had a second large battery installed on my Scout for it, and a high output alternator and still would have to gas the truck anytime i ran the winch for more than 6 or 8 feet. I was a part of a 4x4 club and this seemed to be standard on all of em. Just a thought for you man. A lot of the guys had the HF winches and others like em (JC Whit) and they dealt with the same stuff, so I assume it wasn't just mine. But absolutely love the idea. Youll rise up like rock star. Always shirtless when you ride the elevator though....it should be a rule.
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10-11-2009, 03:01 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: California, Just NorthEast of San Fransisco
Posts: 539
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Picture that lift from the Fork pictured a page or so back, sitting across the back bumper. It makes a great deck. Cover over the hole thing so it is kinda like Kamoo's deck, but it could raise up to the roof height. Place a chair so can sit out for relax time, or just while you rise. If you have some sort of railing that pivots into place, makes it easier, and can probably lift it while sitting to be easier on the back... Or use a winch to lift it up with a button when you want it.
I can come up with ideas, no problem. Will they work, yeah. Practical? Probably not, But they are fun.
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10-11-2009, 12:28 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 280
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Lookin good! You should definately increase the height on the rear door, you will be mad the first time you bang your head on it if you leave it that height.
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10-12-2009, 05:57 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Spencer IA
Posts: 104
Year: 1987
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 366 Gas
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Re: Smitty's Bus
This would be a cool way to make your lift.... Make it so the lift links are part of our rear bumper. Then the deck would be even with your door...you could use a lift cyl. and use air to lift it. If you have air brakes or you could get a small compressor......Wouldn't take much to go up 8 feet.....
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10-13-2009, 01:06 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
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Re: Smitty's Bus
I'd shy away from superwinch based on my experiences. If you want to spend money go all the way and buy Warn. Otherwise, keep it as cheap as possible. There is no middle ground between cheap and expensive winches.
This is the one I run for the plow on my old TRX350 4x4. It was $75 in store...unless you paid $10 for the extended 2 year warranty in which case it was $50 for a total cost of $60. I've got to think the wireless remote would make life a lot easier for your operation.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/d ... mber=95912
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10-13-2009, 09:40 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Wimberley, Tx
Posts: 197
Year: 93
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: ?
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Smitty,
How many man hours do you have in the roof raise thus far?
S
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10-13-2009, 01:33 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: downriver, detroit mi
Posts: 794
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Re: Smitty's Bus
how about an old fashioned power lift that the roofers use for shingles, kind of like a conveyor on a hd ladder
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10-13-2009, 08:27 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
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Re: Smitty's Bus
That's about the best metal work I've seen on a skoolie!
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10-13-2009, 09:34 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Carriere Miss.
Posts: 97
Year: 85
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: G.M.C. 6000 series
Engine: 366 G.M.
Rated Cap: 60
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Look's like you got the wire feed and amperage set rite . You must be squrtin 0.35 wire with CO2 sheild. That works good but I perfer 75% argon 25% CO2 cost a little more but no spatter. And on that mix you can drop down to 0.30 wire and do a fine job on thin sheet sheet metal Russell
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10-13-2009, 11:26 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: amarillo texas
Posts: 158
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Bluebird tc2000
Chassis: 3401-3502 ???
Engine: cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Great progress smitty im "stoked" for u
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10-14-2009, 01:34 AM
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#37
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
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Re: Smitty's Bus
What are you using to notch and cut the tubing, Smitty? Do you have a portaband or something? Those are nice cuts...hats off to you if you're doing the whole project with a grinder! You don't have an abrasive wheel hidden on that miter saw, do you?
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10-14-2009, 04:41 PM
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#38
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Almost There
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Carriere Miss.
Posts: 97
Year: 85
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: G.M.C. 6000 series
Engine: 366 G.M.
Rated Cap: 60
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Re: Smitty's Bus
Wow Smitty look's like you got it go'in on. Makes me wish I could have rasised my roof but i had to get in mine as soon as I could. Im not drag'in my head but a 12 inch lift would be nice. But I don't see nut'in wrong with that, carry on1
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10-15-2009, 07:00 PM
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#39
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Saint James, MN
Posts: 2,669
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Re: Smitty's Bus
How did you go about making sure everything was squared up, Smitty? I really do think my next bus will involve a raised roof and I really like the looks of your craftsmanship.
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10-16-2009, 12:16 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posts: 232
Year: 85
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Ford
Engine: Gas
Rated Cap: 66
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Re: Smitty's Bus
bravo smitty. your making my floor insulation and window tint pics look childish in comparison. great work. wish you were near me. would love to work with you....and get you to help me. haha.
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