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10-10-2017, 01:48 PM
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#521
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
so i wonder if thats my intermittent issue on my DT360, seems it loses prime occasionally.. esp in hot weather soak.. I'll start it.. runs for about 30 seconds and dies.. then I go pump the primer 10X or so.. I can feel when it turns from air to fuel.. start it up and drive it all day no issues..
-Christopher
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Glad to hear you are manually priming, as starters and batteries get pricey. Sometimes it's the return lines that let air in the system, common on 7.3 idi motors. Even those manual pump-style primers have a diaphragm that goes bad with the blended diesel they use today.
I had to replace all my fuel lines on 2003 bus, they were cracked, swollen and generally unhappy from blended diesel.
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10-11-2017, 08:48 PM
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#522
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
so i wonder if thats my intermittent issue on my DT360, seems it loses prime occasionally.. esp in hot weather soak.. I'll start it.. runs for about 30 seconds and dies.. then I go pump the primer 10X or so.. I can feel when it turns from air to fuel.. start it up and drive it all day no issues..
-Christopher
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Could be. I was told by the bus barn guy that mine would lose it's prime sitting for long periods of time. I did find fuel lines leaking on the trip home. The lines between the fuel filter and lift pump were dry cracked very bad. I took them off and made new ones with some hose and clamps to get home. I'll get hydraulic line replacements crimped on them in the future.
Honestly, any rubber fuel system part over 20 years old is suspect.
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I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19
Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
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10-12-2017, 07:02 AM
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#523
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner
Honestly, any rubber fuel system part over 20 years old is suspect.
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Anything made of rubber, RTV, or plastic is suspect.
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10-12-2017, 07:29 AM
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#524
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Anything made of rubber, RTV, or plastic is suspect.
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Anything that blended crap touches is suspect.
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10-12-2017, 07:35 AM
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#525
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
Anything that blended crap touches is suspect.
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No, no, ... I don't mean ethanol. I mean ANYTHING rubber, RTV, or plastic. Suspension rubber bits will be garbage. Any kind of gasket including the windows. Any interior body panel for the plastic.
Take apart an '80s car and try to put it back together without breaking anything.
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11-13-2017, 03:42 PM
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#526
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Working on the instrument cluster dash adaptor.
OK, I just HAD to do something on Gimel. Progress is slow due to several factors but I just had to get something done on it. I have never TIG welded aluminum before and what better thing to learn on that recycling some aluminum signs into a instrument cluster adapter for the new instrument cluster I designed for Gimel. Sorry I didn't take any more pics than these but hopefully you can see what I'm doing (don't beat me up too badly on my first attempt to weld aluminum (I had a couple low spots after sanding to fill with glazing putty later)).
To get those who didn't see it, here's a pic of the instrument cluster I'm making (that has a LOT more gauges to monitor the vehicle) to replace the nonsense thing International puts in these buses.
I started by making a plate patterned from the actual dash plate I had previously made, only 1/8" larger all around and boxed it in around the original dash.
The view from outside looking in.
From the door looking in.
After all the welding was done, time to cut the center out leaving a flange to attach the instrument panel.
Then drill the instrument panel and adapter, thread the holes in the adapter to attach the panel with. Screw down the panel.
When I get ready to install it, I'll have to remove the old instrument cluster, cut away the dash as needed to accommodate my gauge set and switches and mount the adapter. I'm relocating the ignition switch and air valve as well as using different light switches and dash light dimmer. AS you can see this dash gives me a lot more real estate to do things with, not to mention I'll be able to monitor:
Speed
RPM's
Air supply (Primary and Secondary)
Manifold boost pressure
Volts
Fuel tanks (both left and right)
Engine temp.
Oil Pressure.
Exhaust gas temp.
Engine oil temp
Transmission temp.
Differential temp.
Not sure if I can, but I might be able to install air pressure, oil pressure, engine temperature and transmission temp lighted alarms along the bottom edge.
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I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19
Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
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11-13-2017, 03:45 PM
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#527
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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NICE!!!!!!
I haven't forgotten you.
Sending a rib sample cut from my 92, and a piece of the channel I had made. I'll get em in the mail this week!
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11-13-2017, 03:50 PM
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#528
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
NICE!!!!!!
I haven't forgotten you.
Sending a rib sample cut from my 92, and a piece of the channel I had made. I'll get em in the mail this week!
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Thanks!! No problem. We should chat sometime.
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I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19
Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
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11-13-2017, 03:55 PM
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#529
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner
To get those who didn't see it, here's a pic of the instrument cluster I'm making (that has a LOT more gauges to monitor the vehicle) to replace the nonsense thing International puts in these buses.
Not sure if I can, but I might be able to install air pressure, oil pressure, engine temperature and transmission temp lighted alarms along the bottom edge.
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Wow, that looks amazing ! Has that airplane cockpit vibe. The curve compliments the windshield and the steering wheel. Looks like a great improvement. You get to enjoy staring at that whenever you drive the beast. Well Done.
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11-13-2017, 03:58 PM
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#530
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 160
Coachwork: -
Chassis: -
Engine: -
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Wow!!
Sojourner - that panel would be WAY to "busy" for me!!
I suppose you layed it out to your liking and you have some system for it??
Cheers,
thjakits
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11-13-2017, 04:03 PM
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#531
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,830
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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yeah!!! Love this dash!!! Pete-style!! lots of cool gauges to watch!! I love it
-Christopher
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11-13-2017, 04:06 PM
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#532
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
Wow, that looks amazing ! Has that airplane cockpit vibe. The curve compliments the windshield and the steering wheel. Looks like a great improvement. You get to enjoy staring at that whenever you drive the beast. Well Done.
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Thanks. It's a take off (pun intended ) of the old Peterbilt corvette dash. I'm even using Peterbilt vintage gauges (with the tach calibrated to my DT40 . My dad was a truck driver and this setup brings back a LOT of memories. Yea, it's gonna be fun looking over that dash driving this thing down the highway some day!!
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I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19
Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
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11-13-2017, 04:20 PM
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#533
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Outstanding design and workmanship! That would qualify as excellent even on a 29th try let alone first.
Wish I had room for a real dash.
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11-13-2017, 04:21 PM
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#534
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner
Thanks!! No problem. We should chat sometime.
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That would be great!
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11-13-2017, 04:24 PM
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#535
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner
Thanks. It's a take off (pun intended ) of the old Peterbilt corvette dash. I'm even using Peterbilt vintage gauges (with the tach calibrated to my DT40 . My dad was a truck driver and this setup brings back a LOT of memories. Yea, it's gonna be fun looking over that dash driving this thing down the highway some day!!
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My dad is a trucker, and nostalgia makes me want to incorporate as much class 8 stuff into my bus as I can!
Chicken lights and chrome!
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11-13-2017, 04:25 PM
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#536
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
yeah!!! Love this dash!!! Pete-style!! lots of cool gauges to watch!! I love it
-Christopher
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One thing I like is gauges. Even if they're unnecessary. I love the plethora of them you see on older big rigs.
My new shorty has the later IC gauges that I like.
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11-13-2017, 04:59 PM
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#537
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,830
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I like gauges too... granted i do mine in a more modern style with the 2 (soon to be 3) digital panels.. but i love watching gauges and seeing inside the guts of a vehicle with them.. awesome stuff..
totally cool all the neat stuff people build on this forum
-Christopher
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11-13-2017, 04:59 PM
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#538
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 703
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
yeah!!! Love this dash!!! Pete-style!! lots of cool gauges to watch!! I love it
-Christopher
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Thx!! Lot's of gauges is a very good thing!!
__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19
Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
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11-14-2017, 08:06 AM
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#539
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thjakits
Wow!!
Sojourner - that panel would be WAY to "busy" for me!!
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I don't know if it's too busy for me or not. Walking in the first time yes. After awhile, probably not.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
yeah!!! Love this dash!!! Pete-style!! lots of cool gauges to watch!! I love it
-Christopher
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Really, Mr. Digital?
Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
granted i do mine in a more modern style with the 2 (soon to be 3) digital panels..
-Christopher
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There is it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner
Thx!! Lot's of gauges is a very good thing!!
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You can always ignore the ones that don't need constant staring.
All analog? I like analog. I have aircraft gauges in one of my cars.
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11-14-2017, 09:14 AM
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#540
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Waco, Texas
Posts: 64
Year: 2003
Chassis: 2003 International CE; 2 A/C Units; PS; Air Brakes
Engine: T444E 7.3L Diesel Engine
Rated Cap: 72 Passengers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
I like gauges too... granted i do mine in a more modern style with the 2 (soon to be 3) digital panels.. but i love watching gauges and seeing inside the guts of a vehicle with them.. awesome stuff..
totally cool all the neat stuff people build on this forum
-Christopher
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My husband won't let me put a "phaser bank energy level" or "warp-speed capacity" indicator on my bus. The party-pooper. I think it would be cool, he thinks that would be the exact opposite...
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