Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-21-2018, 07:00 PM   #701
Bus Crazy
 
david.dgeorge07's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,413
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: CAT 3126
Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner View Post
Been a weird day today. Cool and threatening to rain but I decided to push on and hopefully make some progress.
I cut and primed the panels that will cover the school bus hatch openings when I remove the hatches.



Primed the sheet metal where the air cleaner access door is. Disassembled the paddle latch, cleaned, primed and painted the parts. Primed the air cleaner access door and frame. Lubed and reassembled the paddle latch and then installed the sheet metal and air cleaner access door assembly.





Hopefully things will warm up a bit and I can get to power washing inside and out. I've got to deal with the inside of the roof before beginning to skin the window openings I want to cover.


Love the handle! I wish my bus doors were that style.

__________________
My Build Thread:

https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/4-...ner-18205.html
david.dgeorge07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2018, 07:08 PM   #702
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 67
You're giving me evil ideas. I was kicking around doing something similar, so the navigator can sit further forward. Really like what you've done with your emergency door. I've been trying to figure out how to do retractable outside stairs!

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
Dave in Tucson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 09:55 AM   #703
Bus Nut
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 701
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave in Tucson View Post
You're giving me evil ideas. I was kicking around doing something similar, so the navigator can sit further forward. Really like what you've done with your emergency door. I've been trying to figure out how to do retractable outside stairs!

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk


The only emergency door I had was the back door. I cut into the sidewall of bus to install our entry door and step well.
__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19

Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 01:20 PM   #704
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner View Post


The only emergency door I had was the back door. I cut into the sidewall of bus to install our entry door and step well.
Yeah, I'm doing an RE, so have the emergency door on the side.

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
Dave in Tucson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 02:07 PM   #705
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave in Tucson View Post
Yeah, I'm doing an RE, so have the emergency door on the side.

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
I have the same but the luggage bays are below the door, so a new stairwell is out.
__________________
Steve Bracken

Build Thread
Twigg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 04:48 PM   #706
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg View Post
I have the same but the luggage bays are below the door, so a new stairwell is out.
Not necessarily. How about a longer folding stair. I'm thinking something that will fold vertically inside the door. (And a taller door). The stair would have to pivot at the floor level, and no cuts in the floor itself. The top of the stairs could have a horizontal extension that puts the pivot point whatever distance inside the bus that will allow it to clear the door when the stairs are vertical with the door closed.

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
Dave in Tucson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 04:55 PM   #707
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 67
Also, a "steeper" stair, more like what the Navy calls a " ladder", will actually shorten the vertical height when stowed.

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
Dave in Tucson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 06:43 PM   #708
Bus Nut
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 701
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg View Post
I have the same but the luggage bays are below the door, so a new stairwell is out.
I don't know why. You'd have to use up a bit of the storage area but you could get back more utilizing the front stairwell area you'll remove to build the co-pilot seat. The advantage to a side door is the floor plan feels more homey.
__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19

Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 06:49 PM   #709
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 67
Yup, I definitely want my navigator next to me, so the front stairs gotta go. And I hate wasting a perfectly good side door. Also planning on moving my fuel fill door to driver's side. Out the side, fill 'er up, and back on the road!

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
Dave in Tucson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 06:50 PM   #710
Bus Nut
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 701
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave in Tucson View Post
Not necessarily. How about a longer folding stair. I'm thinking something that will fold vertically inside the door. (And a taller door). The stair would have to pivot at the floor level, and no cuts in the floor itself. The top of the stairs could have a horizontal extension that puts the pivot point whatever distance inside the bus that will allow it to clear the door when the stairs are vertical with the door closed.

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
The problem you'll have with that is working out how it will function when the stairs are down and being able to close the door with a good seal. You'd have to pivot a whole section of the bottom of the step well and essentially have two floors for that section. One that's in place when the stairs are down and one that's in place with the stairs in the up position. You'd have to have good seals all around in both positions. Not impossible, just not that elegant. However, if one raises the roof you can get enough room to install electric steps under the door without losing ground clearance plus you'll have one less step intruding into the floor plan. Ground clearance was the reason I designed my steps like I did with the stock cabin height.
__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19

Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 06:54 PM   #711
Bus Nut
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 701
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave in Tucson View Post
Yup, I definitely want my navigator next to me, so the front stairs gotta go. And I hate wasting a perfectly good side door. Also planning on moving my fuel fill door to driver's side. Out the side, fill 'er up, and back on the road!

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
Just remember to make sure the fuel fill hose is supported and in a consistent downhill run from the fill neck to the fuel tank. Any dip in the hose can cause the fuel to "burp" when filling. I re-ran the fuel fill hose on a good number of new boats in my day dealer prepping them. The condition is a nuisance in a diesel truck but a serious safety hazard with gasoline and environmental hazard on both while fueling on the water. Not that those last two are a concern for our diesel skoolies. Just mentioned for context.
__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19

Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 06:55 PM   #712
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner View Post
I don't know why. You'd have to use up a bit of the storage area but you could get back more utilizing the front stairwell area you'll remove to build the co-pilot seat. The advantage to a side door is the floor plan feels more homey.
Agreed.

I thought about designing the floorplan around a center door for that reason. The only issue is that it is on the "wrong" side for best use in campgrounds.

So we are keeping the door but it will actually be in the bathroom. Still useful for a through-breeze or loading things but not so much for getting in or out.
__________________
Steve Bracken

Build Thread
Twigg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 06:56 PM   #713
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner View Post
The problem you'll have with that is working out how it will function when the stairs are down and being able to close the door with a good seal. You'd have to pivot a whole section of the bottom of the step well and essentially have two floors for that section. One that's in place when the stairs are down and one that's in place with the stairs in the up position. You'd have to have good seals all around in both positions. Not impossible, just not that elegant. However, if one raises the roof you can get enough room to install electric steps under the door without losing ground clearance plus you'll have one less step intruding into the floor plan. Ground clearance was the reason I designed my steps like I did with the stock cabin height.
Another thing I've been thinking about is underfloor slide out stairs, kind of like the airstairs on some of the Boeing 737's. Opening (extending) the stairs from inside the bus, without some kind of electric drive is the problem.

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
Dave in Tucson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 06:59 PM   #714
Bus Nut
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 701
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg View Post
Agreed.

I thought about designing the floorplan around a center door for that reason. The only issue is that it is on the "wrong" side for best use in campgrounds.

So we are keeping the door but it will actually be in the bathroom. Still useful for a through-breeze or loading things but not so much for getting in or out.
Gotcha. Cool!!
Owasso huh? I graduated HS from McLoud (near OKC) went to college in Tulsa and used to work down the road from you in Collinsville (Webbcraft Boats). Met my wife while in Tulsa and got married there.
Lots of memories and family in OK.
__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19

Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 07:02 PM   #715
Bus Nut
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 701
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave in Tucson View Post
Another thing I've been thinking about is underfloor slide out stairs, kind of like the airstairs on some of the Boeing 737's. Opening (extending) the stairs from inside the bus, without some kind of electric drive is the problem.

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
With a rear engine you might be able to pull that off. Mines a FE so the frame rails get in the way of a mechanism to do that on mine. There's plenty of heavy duty (over 1000lbs rated) long reach drawer slides these days that just might be your huckleberry. Couple that driven with a linear actuator and you'd be on your way.
__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19

Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 07:05 PM   #716
Mini-Skoolie
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by sojourner View Post
Gotcha. Cool!!
Owasso huh? I graduated HS from McLoud (near OKC) went to college in Tulsa and used to work down the road from you in Collinsville (Webbcraft Boats). Met my wife while in Tulsa and got married there.
Lots of memories and family in OK.
I spent one year working at AAR at Will Rogers Airport, and living in Mustang. While I grew up in Minnesota, I've been living in Arizona since '78, and I don't miss the snow and ice at all! OKC was a wake up call, with no fond memories!

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
Dave in Tucson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2018, 07:11 PM   #717
Bus Geek
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave in Tucson View Post
I spent one year working at AAR at Will Rogers Airport, and living in Mustang. While I grew up in Minnesota, I've been living in Arizona since '78, and I don't miss the snow and ice at all! OKC was a wake up call, with no fond memories!

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk
I hear ya.

We have stayed here for family reasons, and then the kids schooling.

We are three years from being free of that and maybe a move to friendlier skies. New Mexico and Colorado are appealing.
__________________
Steve Bracken

Build Thread
Twigg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2018, 01:54 PM   #718
Bus Nut
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 701
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
I was planning on removing, prepping and priming the storage bay skins aft of the rear axle on the passenger side but today is calling for cold and rain so going to plan B. The salvaged awning I pulled from our travel trailer is a 21' unit. I need a 13' unit to I drilled out the rivets holding the cap off one end and removed the cap and wind-up spring assembly. Measured 8' (21-8= 13) and set in the bandsaw and cut.





It was then simply a matter of deburring the cut edge, do a bit of repair on the wind-up assembly, lubricate it, drill new rivet holes and reassemble.
I laid it on the step to double check the placement. It will fit perfectly. I've designed extra support for the awning arm anchor brackets when I built the fuel tank mounts and storage bay skin frames. The anchors will bolt firmly to some very strong mountings when installed.



I'm still trying to decide on whether to mount the roll-up assembly above or below the midships clearance lamp. I just might install the awning fabric anchor strip over the light hole and remount the lamp under the awning so it can be easily seen from the ground with the awning rolled up. This way the awning can be rolled up without possibly having to modify the arms to accommodate the radius of the roof and still have it high enough the door won't rub the fabric when extended.

I cut to length and cleaned the old putty sealant off fabric anchor strip and pounded flat the holes that have been pulled on with screws. I'm considering using 3M Double Sided Bonding tape instead of of the Butyl putty strip. I simply can't see any reason for having to remove the strip once installed and I might be able to use less screws to hold the strip on giving fewer chances of leaks in the future.
While I know it's a bit different mounting, this strip, in particular, was the reason water got into the walls of out travel trailer and destroyed it before we knew what was going on. That entire sidewall got wet and eventually delaminated, and grew a big batch of black mold, because of the shoddy repair by the local RV dealer we bought the trailer from and had it repaired by. By the time the damage was found, they were out of business having sold to Camper World.
__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19

Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2018, 06:26 PM   #719
Bus Nut
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 701
Year: 1995
Engine: DT408
While it was most certainly a bad day to paint, the same could not be said for drilling and tapping.
I drilled the mounting holes (3/16") in the frame of the storage bay doors just aft of the new door location. I then mounted the frame and using the frame as a template, drilled the holes through the skin and storage bay framework. I then removed the frame and drilled the 3/16" holes to 1/4" in it and the door skin. I then tapped the 3/16" holes in the frames to 1/4-20 to accept the mounting bolts I'm using to secure all the storage bay door frames.
Here's a pic of the assembly test fitted. I still have to do the finish work on the doors and frame but it's nice to see the doors there instead of just a big opening.



As you can see in the previous pic, I got a Stainless Steel exhaust tip to dress things up a bit. Here's a closeup.

__________________
I am an sojourner in the earth; hide not Your Commandments from me. Psalm 119:19

Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commandments of YAHWEH, and the faith of Yahshua. Rev. 14:12
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2018, 07:08 PM   #720
Bus Nut
 
Thomas1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fayetteville Arkansas
Posts: 419
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: GMC G3500 Vandura
Engine: V-8 5.7L Gas
What are those lockable handles you use called? Where can I get them? I'm wanting to make a compartment like that. I'm also making my own door and am wondering how to make my own lockable handle for that as well. Thanks for any information you have.
__________________
- Thomas

The Daily Driver Bus Build
Thomas1985 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.