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01-16-2019, 08:49 PM
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#181
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
We recent switched from coconut coir to kitty litter and that was a nice upgrade.
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How so? I heard sphagnum peat moss is the best agent for a CT. I need to see how the rotator works and fab one of those into it.
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01-16-2019, 08:55 PM
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#182
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Grayson County, VA
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Year: 1996
Coachwork: Amtran
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Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
We recent switched from coconut coir to kitty litter and that was a nice upgrade.
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Interesting, we have a Nature's Head....think it would work alright for that? Coconut coir isn't the easiest to come by.
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01-16-2019, 09:00 PM
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#183
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Bru
Interesting, we have a Nature's Head....think it would work alright for that? Coconut coir isn't the easiest to come by.
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Do I think the sphagnum will work in the NH, absolutely. I understand the sphagnum actually aides composting of the material.
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01-16-2019, 09:18 PM
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#184
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Grayson County, VA
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Year: 1996
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Do I think the sphagnum will work in the NH, absolutely. I understand the sphagnum actually aides composting of the material.
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Nice. I know Peat moss is recommended for NH, but I can only find it in giant blocks that are kinda too big to store. I've seen sphagnum moss in smaller bags though. I suppose we'll use whatever works and is convenient at the time we need to restock, whether it's kitty litter, moss of some kind, or coir.
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01-17-2019, 12:18 AM
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#185
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Good start to a DIY Compost Toilet.
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Lowered the "urinal" into the bucket more.
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01-17-2019, 11:53 PM
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#186
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Year: 1999
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Chassis: International
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01-18-2019, 01:08 AM
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#187
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Bru
Interesting, we have a Nature's Head....think it would work alright for that? Coconut coir isn't the easiest to come by.
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Kitty litter won't really "stir", it's more like "stack". We use a yeah bag to line our container and change the bag weekly.
For the nature's head you are probably best using Coco. We find that Walmart often carried Burpee coir and would stock up whenever we find it.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Burpee-Ec...t-190/55503036
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01-18-2019, 01:14 AM
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#188
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
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Year: 1997
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Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
How so? I heard sphagnum peat moss is the best agent for a CT. I need to see how the rotator works and fab one of those into it.
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Easier maintenance is the big one. If you have a stir mechanism you can't use a liner, and if you don't then your toilet is going to get get gross quickly. With this setup you just sprinkle some litter after you go and change the bag every week. No scrubbing necessary. Plus we have cats so we carry litter anyway.
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01-21-2019, 05:21 PM
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#189
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Easier maintenance is the big one. If you have a stir mechanism you can't use a liner, and if you don't then your toilet is going to get get gross quickly. With this setup you just sprinkle some litter after you go and change the bag every week. No scrubbing necessary. Plus we have cats so we carry litter anyway.
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Posting this as a reply, don't know why they keep adding brokedowns quote.
So my plan is to delete the 3 windows over the wheel wells where the bunks will be and I want to add 47"x10" windows with screens at each bunk. There's not enough room to fit them both in the old frames. So I will remove the rub rail and drop the window to the middle of the bunk separation space, and upper one probably just high in the old location. I plan on deleting the side door, unless someone can convince me of it's assets over liabilities, Once the door is deleted I can cut the ends off the rub rails and reweld them on the rail I cut from the lower window. I checked and those end caps for the rub rails are $80, I'll repurpose these like I did on the rear corners. I'm still up in the air on window arrangement from there forward.
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01-21-2019, 06:50 PM
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#190
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,974
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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The only reason for the side door would be egress. If you keep an emergency window or you can get from the inside of your bus out the back double doors then the side door be gone
Christopher
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01-21-2019, 07:07 PM
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#191
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
The only reason for the side door would be egress. If you keep an emergency window or you can get from the inside of your bus out the back double doors then the side door be gone
Christopher
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I'm contemplating RV emergency window in other areas of the bus. That door is where the planned shower will be. So I guess it's gone. I can salvage and reuse the 2 hinges and the end caps. I need to carefully remove the skins where the windows are going to use as patches elsewhere. The international doesn't use a flat skin, it has a "reveal" every 8" or so, covering with flat sheet would look out of place. The stock windows would be easy to get out in an emergency if there was fire prompting you out that window. I think in the front living area I want to keep as much ambient light as possible, so stock windows will probably remain.
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01-22-2019, 04:08 PM
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#192
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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I don't know, kinda looks like a compost toilet to me, should work marvelously.
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01-22-2019, 06:48 PM
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#193
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
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Looks good man!
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01-22-2019, 06:51 PM
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#194
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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the urine bottle was the most expensive piece at $38 shipped, $4 Homer bucket, $4 funnel from HD, $5 seat cover from the liquidation Hut. I bought the lid just for construction, I'll have a wood seat ultimately.
So right now, $51 for all the parts, just need to build a cabinet.
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01-22-2019, 07:29 PM
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#195
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
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Do you have a plan for mixing the contents? That and negative pressure ventilation make a huge difference for issue and time between changes.
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01-22-2019, 07:32 PM
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#196
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Do you have a plan for mixing the contents? That and negative pressure ventilation make a huge difference for issue and time between changes.
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I don't understand, why would I want to mix the contents? Do you mean stir the compost? I'm still trying to see how it's done in a Natures head. Worse comes to worse and I'll have a pail of replacement compost next to it with a scoop for adding a scoop of compost.
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01-22-2019, 07:37 PM
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#197
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Grayson County, VA
Posts: 1,438
Year: 1996
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Engine: DT466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
I don't understand, why would I want to mix the contents? Do you mean stir the compost? I'm still trying to see how it's done in a Natures head. Worse comes to worse and I'll have a pail of replacement compost next to it with a scoop for adding a scoop of compost.
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Nature's Head has a sort of Z-shaped rod going through the bin that churns the media by turning a crank.
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01-22-2019, 08:14 PM
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#198
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Bus Geek
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Yep you got it. Adding some material on top should be fine.
There commercial units all use the z shaped rod, I used one in my previous build as well. 5/16 steel will do the job.
Or you can start with a small amount of material in the bottom and add some more each time you use it. That's the same plan as kitty litter.
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01-22-2019, 08:15 PM
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#199
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Bru
Nature's Head has a sort of Z-shaped rod going through the bin that churns the media by turning a crank.
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I'll look into that as I develop this system.
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01-23-2019, 05:03 PM
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#200
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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The RV windows for my bunks came in today. 42" x 10", slider with screens and trim rings.
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