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Old 05-06-2020, 04:08 PM   #1041
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Old 05-06-2020, 05:23 PM   #1042
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Noises from the street woke me up at 3 a.m., but noise at night is "normal" on my side of the tracks.
At 9 a.m. a neighbor came over and alerted me to the damage.

Simply parked at the curb, since I have been driving her lately.

The good news.... Somebody is even worse off than I am.
It is the usual passive-aggressive behavior -- lashing out to make himself feel better, by depriving me of something he cannot have.

I would understand it better if I parked a Rolls Royce out there. But an effin' old school bus! That guy is poor indeed, and in more ways than one.
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I'm sorry for your loss and spiritual intrusion...
Seeing your post is the saddest part of my day...

I can only hope the burner community comes through for you with a gift of new glass, maybe from another bus...
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Old 05-06-2020, 07:11 PM   #1044
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Thank you, banman!
And you are absolutely correct -- this is not about two pieces of glass.

And even though... the vandal is the guy with a problem... I confess to being slightly tired of people tearing my heart out and pissing on the bloody stump.

Now... luckily, I HAVE two new windshields -- from the Albatross bus. And they are free of the annoying rock chips Millicent had accumulated. A silver lining!
Definitely a job for a pro, though.

But I could use a headlight bezel, since I expect to reuse the Albatross ones on Albatross.


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The other silver lining is that, that sexy grille was spared your thugs abuse...

From so far away I can only suggest a furry companion...

You're a kinder soul than I am but this pic always warms my heart...
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:04 PM   #1046
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Man, the sight of that makes me sick to my stomach, and also afraid. One POS with a crowbar could easily end my entire project.
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Old 05-06-2020, 11:13 PM   #1047
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Normally, Millicent lives in the yard behind the fence.
But I have been dragging my feet with repairing my pickup-truck, so I have used Millicent for grocery runs. Thus, she was at the curb outside the fence.
This will not happen again.
Also, I am parking vehicles nose-in from now on.
Harrumph!
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Old 05-06-2020, 11:24 PM   #1048
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Why you selling it??
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Old 05-06-2020, 11:25 PM   #1049
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(I still need to blow off steam.)
Banman, about that well-trained dog....
See the hay-loft window in my barn?


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Old 05-06-2020, 11:29 PM   #1050
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Why you selling it??
Well, probably not. But this morning I felt slightly discouraged.
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Old 05-10-2020, 12:42 AM   #1051
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Well, probably not. But this morning I felt slightly discouraged.
NOOOOO! Don't let her go!

Got a few questions..

When you made your cuts for raising the roof did you cut where you did because of the bolts that you use as stops? Would you have other wise cut at the mid section of the windows?

Also, did you have to level the bus and/or put it on wood blocks in certain areas to keep the bus from sagging using you lift method? Maybe you mentioned it in the past but I can't remember but I no others have using the rod method

Lastly, I remember you mentioning a second attempt to raise the roof higher. Did you ever get around to doing so?

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Old 05-10-2020, 02:53 AM   #1052
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What I did 14 years ago is not how I would do it a second time.

Staggering the cuts is sound policy.

I needed more than two feet of room below the guide sleeves, so those four window-posts needed to be cut at the top. But I could and should have alternated the rest of the cuts, high and low on the window-posts.

I would remove the outer skin from each window-post, so I could set the inserts into the hat channels with a horizontal movement, and not need to slip them down from the top -- which required lifting the roof several extra inches and then lowering it again.

I might make the inserts so tall (long vertically) as to protrude thru the roof skin, forming mounting points for Things on the roof (observation deck and whatnot).

I did not level the bus. I simply went by measurements -- 24 inches everywhere, and also diagonal measurements to keep the body square.

But leveling the bus first would also be sound policy.

I have not started on any further raising. And now I feel no need to. It would be perfectionism, which I am learning to let go of.

Of course... I do have the Albatross bus to raise.

In current affairs....
Yesterday, I covered both sides of the broken windshields with contact paper and tape, to contain the forty-eleven gazillion tiny razor-sharp shards of glass.

And now I question the value of laminated glass, as opposed to tempered glass.
Because... the inner sheet of glass sprayed a huge amount of tiny razor-sharp shards of glass as much as 20 feet into the interior. It was an inch deep on the driver seat. If this damage had been caused by a large rock while I was driving, I cannot imagine avoiding severe injuries such as losing my eyes.

Today, I parked her inside the fence -- closing the barn door, so to speak, ha ha.
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Old 05-10-2020, 04:32 PM   #1053
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Sorry about the windshield. That sucks.

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I would remove the outer skin from each window-post, so I could set the inserts into the hat channels with a horizontal movement, and not need to slip them down from the top -- which required lifting the roof several extra inches and then lowering it again.
Not sure I understand this. I'm sure I'm comprehending it wrong lol.

Are you planning on starting a new thread for a new build when raising the roof on what I assume is another bus? Similar method? If your not using the lift tools you made I'll buy one from you if you're thinking of selling em. Maybe all 4!

Thanks for getting back
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Old 05-10-2020, 06:43 PM   #1054
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Window-post with and without cover. (And with a wad of old insulation.)


Yes, a second bus;
Albatross Chronicles already started:

https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/t...tml#post182530

Mind you, this is a long-term project.
And the roof-raise will be complicated, because I need to match the bus roof to the airplane roof.

I will definitely need to use the four telescoping guides I made for Millicent:





I no longer have the farm jacks, but any jack will do.

Come to think of it... if I set longer inserts in place from the outside, they can also serve to help guide the roof straight upward. And I can achieve more strength.

The longer I plan, the better the plan!

Finally, I now feel pretty certain who committed the vandalism. Same kid as threatened me with a pistol a couple weeks ago.
Seems smashing things is a habit of his -- recently, he was caught on a security camera smashing counter tops at a cabinet shop a few blocks away.
So, the PD already knows him. (And I have friends in the PD.) All I have to do is wait until he self-destructs completely, which will not likely be long.
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Old 05-10-2020, 09:08 PM   #1055
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Threatened you with a pistol? Why??

Anyways, hope this time you can get the whole raise captured on video by a friend, or at least the important/complicated parts. Headed over to check your other build. Will definitely come back here to look at photos for guidance and confidence, as I'm getting closer to lifting my on roof, or at least make an attempt lol

Thanks

Edit: when you say "leveling the bus first would also be sound policy." Is that because you came across issues the first time around?

Oh, and as for the way you want to remove the outer skin from window-posts, to set the inserts into the hat channels, that's what I was getting. Thanks for the pic clarification!
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Old 05-10-2020, 09:58 PM   #1056
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Because brandishing a pistol and shooting off his mouth is the sort of thing people like him do.
Let me illustrate:

I can see their house from a corner of my back yard -- around 200 feet away.

A day or two before the vandalism, I was in the back yard and noticed loud shouting from the direction of their house.
I looked, and there was this punk and his girlfriend, out in the middle of the street -- the intersection, for good measure -- and he was cussing her out at an impressive volume.
For one thing, he accused her of giving him an STD.

...At the top of his lungs in the middle of a residential intersection, with homes every 100 or 200 feet in all directions!

I am guessing he noticed me looking in his direction. Then he might have felt a flicker of embarrassment, and he would lash out at me to restore his pride and self-confidence.

He sure showed me who the better man is, so to speak. How dare I eavesdrop on his private conversation! LOL
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No, I did not have any noticeable problem with Millicent's roof raise.

I did have to use ratchet straps to square things up, but this might have been necessary even with the bus perfectly level.

And perhaps I lucked out and she was right close to level by sheer fluke.
I will never know.
But... parking her on level ground, and/or blocking the body level, could not hurt, and might possibly help in some way or other.


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No, I did not have any noticeable problem with Millicent's roof raise.

I did have to use ratchet straps to square things up, but this might have been necessary even with the bus perfectly level.

And perhaps I lucked out and she was right close to level by sheer fluke.
I will never know.
But... parking her on level ground, and/or blocking the body level, could not hurt, and might possibly help in some way or other.


Is there a whole recorded history of skoolie roof-raising somewhere? Are you one of the first people (or *the* first) to raise a bus roof like this? I'm slightly disappointed that I won't get the opportunity to do one on my own bus (unless I grow three or four inches).
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Old 05-11-2020, 12:21 AM   #1059
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Yes, there is a "recorded history" of roof raises. It is called skoolie.net.

And many did it before I did.

As for quality of work, Reprobate may be our king:
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/t...-yet-2485.html

Here is another:
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/q...r-et-9561.html

And PNW_Steve:
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/p...3re-21182.html

And this:
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/t...ence-9993.html

And this one, from a different website:
Raising the Roof

Start digging, and you will find more.
Most of them are probably in the "Conversion Projects" section:
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/
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Hey Eliot.. did you bolt or weld the square tube that sits on the rising part of the farm jacks? I assume you secured it some kind of way as not doing so would be asking for something to go wrong

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