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05-02-2012, 12:48 PM
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#81
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Re: the wait is over
What park were you at?I miss hitting the trails
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05-02-2012, 04:46 PM
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#82
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 352
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: 466DT
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: the wait is over
That was my first trip to SMORR (southern Missouri off road ranch). Very nice park! The campground is very nice with all new facilities. Over 940 acres with lots of trails. Ranging from easy trails to almost impossible, almost
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05-02-2012, 05:40 PM
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#83
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Roswell, NM
Posts: 3,588
Year: 1986
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 40 ft All American FE
Engine: 8.2LTA Fuel Pincher DD V8
Rated Cap: 89
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Re: the wait is over
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hvbuzz
... SMORR...
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No, that's S'MORE and it's a yummy gooey messy marshmallowy, chocolately delight! Surpassed only by Banana Boats! YUM YUM!
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05-02-2012, 06:36 PM
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#84
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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Re: the wait is over
Cool,I'm planning to hit the "all american park" in auburn,AL a few weeks for our next ECORS race unless I get a bus first,used to hit Tellico ...enjoyed Harlan,Callalantee was my home...hit up URE a few times a year for get togethers with friends
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Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.
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05-02-2012, 08:47 PM
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#85
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,227
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: the wait is over
Hi, I have the same genny--you will love it it is so quiet. Have you looked into the propane change over for about $185? I'm thinking about it but haven't made up my mind. I'm concerned that I'll be pouring diesel in my genny and gas in my diesel--BOOM. What do you think?
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05-02-2012, 10:17 PM
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#86
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bakersfield, California
Posts: 1,013
Year: 1976
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach
Engine: Detroit 6-71 Mid-Ship Mounted
Rated Cap: 79 at Birth
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Re: the wait is over
Glad to see you're out on the road and having some fun...Rig looks nice in the campground
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05-04-2012, 04:50 PM
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#87
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 352
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: 466DT
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: the wait is over
Its such a great feeling, having it out on the road. I really can't wait to get it out again.
I haven't even had time yet to fire up the generator. I think the propane fuel is a good idea for the generator. Never worrying about the gas going bad, would be the biggest advantage. However, from what I have read you lose about 10% of your output of the generator running on propane. I'm pretty sure I'm going to need all the output most of the time. I hoping to mount the whole unit under the bus. Just looking at it quickly, I think I can also mount a extra tank right next to it and gravity feed it. I have a couple 20 gallon jeep tanks laying around I think I cand use. Then run the filler neck out the side of the bus. Not to worried about filling the wrong one because they will be on opposite sides of the bus.
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05-04-2012, 09:21 PM
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#88
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,227
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: the wait is over
I hadn't thought about a gravity feed system. I guess you could feed in through the original gas cap with a fitting of some kind but you'd need a shut off valve right there or you couldn't remove the gas cap without a fuel spill. I don't think I'd want to punch a hole in the Yamaha gas tank itself though. BTY Yamaha says that the propane and gas genny put out the same elect power--just that it takes a bit more propane than the equivalent gas to do so?!?
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05-05-2012, 06:30 AM
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#89
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 352
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: 466DT
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: the wait is over
Do you have a link to this propane system? I haven't seen it. I have a hard time believing you wouldn't have a loss of output. I've seen gas engines converted to propane and they always had a loss of power. Propane likes a higher compression. Which if the engine is setup for propane from the beginning, then I could see it having the same power output. I'm not saying your wrong, I like reading about that kind stuff.
Has far as adding the second gas tank. I think there is a couple easy ways to do it.
1. Run the new gas line right to the factory shut off valve and not use their small tank.
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2. Run new gas line to right after the factory valve and add a tee with another shut off valve on the new tank. If done that way, I could use the big tank and use the little tank as a reserve.
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05-05-2012, 10:39 AM
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#90
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,227
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Re: the wait is over
As you probably know there are a couple of ways to set up for propane. The actual Yamaha set up changes the actual carb while the add on aftermarket just ads a fuel jet to the top of the stock gas carb. Here are a couple of sites-- www.propane-generator.com/tri-fuel-kit.htm and next try entering the following in Google: Triple-Fuel Yamaha EF4500iSE Inverter Generator - YouTube. The second one is interesting because it shows a Yamaha being first run on propane and then being run on gas. Watch the rich exhaust on the gas run. I don't know for sure but it looks like the mixture was fattened up for the propane (to cover power loss?) and they forgot to lean it out for the gas. The first site talks about readjusting the mixture as you switch back and forth between fuels. What do you think?
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05-25-2012, 04:57 PM
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#91
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 352
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: 466DT
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: the wait is over
Started working on the poop tank. I couldn't see spending the $300 plus on a tank bigger then 40 gallons. So I got a free 55 gallon rectangular poly tank from a guy in town that sells car wash soap. I found these 3" tank fittings I can adapt back to black abs plastic piping. Not cheap though. $40 apiece and I needed two, one for the outlet and one for the toliet flange. The vent I'm going to use 1.5" ones and can be had alot cheaper for about $6-8 apiece.
3" tank fittings
What I want it to look like mounted.
Started working on the bottom framing today. Hope to have all of it done sometime over the weekend.
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05-25-2012, 07:30 PM
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#92
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 784
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Genesis
Engine: Detroit
Rated Cap: 14
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Re: the wait is over
What are the dimensions of that tank? Wonder if one of the local car wash places in my town would be willing to sell one of their empties? Great idea! Thanks for posting.
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05-25-2012, 08:36 PM
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#93
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 352
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: 466DT
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: the wait is over
The tank is 40"x18"x18". I think it is going to work out well. It was the only rectangular tank I got from him. I might check back and see if he has anymore. I would really like to make a gray tank out of another one. I also got some 30gal. round poly barrels. I'm pretty sure I can make them work for gray tanks, if I can't get more rectangular tanks. The guy I got them from actually sells the soap to the car washes. But it sure wouldn't hurt to check with the carwash's themselves.
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05-26-2012, 08:33 PM
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#94
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bakersfield, California
Posts: 1,013
Year: 1976
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach
Engine: Detroit 6-71 Mid-Ship Mounted
Rated Cap: 79 at Birth
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Re: the wait is over
Going to be a very nice looking poop tank
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05-26-2012, 08:55 PM
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#95
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, WA.
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 3208 na boat anchor
Rated Cap: 2
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Re: the wait is over
....and you're one step ahead of the pack. Yellow=hazardous wastes.
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05-27-2012, 08:40 AM
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#96
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pueblo Co
Posts: 310
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Safe T Liner
Engine: 3208 turbo
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: the wait is over
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05-27-2012, 09:53 AM
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#97
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oregon/Philippines
Posts: 1,660
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Re: the wait is over
i have 4 of the blue 30 gallon round ones and probably 8 of the 55 gal round ones that i am not gonna use.
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06-17-2012, 09:31 PM
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#98
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 352
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: 466DT
Rated Cap: 65
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Re: the wait is over
Yankeflyer, I plan on doing something alot like your gray tank on my gray tank.
But for now I'm just tying the shower into the black tank. It is alot quicker right now to do that. I am making provisions though to run the drain to a gray tank later. Some of the plumbing in progress. Not done yet. I have another ball valve that I'm going to add just next to the T, that is where I will run the line later over the frame under the bus floor over to the other side for a gray tank. There just wasn't enough room to keep both tanks on the same side. Fuel tank is in my way. I'm ok with it though. The black tank is 55 gallons, I figure I will probably want to add some shower water in there just to keep enough liquid sloshing back and forth anyway. I figure I'll have options this way.
I also got the vent ran through the roof as well. I have been putting that off for a long time. I really hate cutting holes in the roof.
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06-18-2012, 10:44 PM
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#99
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 119
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Vent pipe
I would put some kind of vented cap on the vent pipe. Removing a stuck sqirrel from it is no fun...
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06-21-2012, 04:14 AM
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#100
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 124
Year: 1999
Coachwork: ElDorado
Chassis: Chevy P30
Engine: 7.4 liter 454 Chevy
Rated Cap: 24
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Re: the wait is over
Just kidding; you could remove that stuck squirrel by drilling a hole in the pipe and give it a squirt of propane; flick a Bic while yelling " FIRE IN THE HOLE". One Squirrel in orbit.
Really I am just kidding.
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