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01-22-2019, 10:35 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,400
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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For sale ads from 1 post members.
Hey Everyone,
We see quite a few for sale post from brand new members.
Unfortunately, it seems that most of them post incomplete ads and many never respond to questions an/or fail to post contact info.
Would it be a reasonable thing to limit for sale post to members with a certain number of posts ? (5?)
What do you all think?
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01-22-2019, 10:39 AM
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#2
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,481
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I certainly does keep the riffraff out trying to unload garbage. I think it's a good idea.
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01-22-2019, 10:44 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Grayson County, VA
Posts: 1,402
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65
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Eh, maybe? I could see how members here sorta feel exploited by the hit-and-run ads. On the other hand, it doesn't seem like those ads get much traction anyway and they almost serve as a Public Service Announcement or reality check on the realities of bus conversion. It's almost like people learn what not to pony up for when they read the replies to some of these ads.
Both bad and good aspects of the offerings are commented on and it helps educate people, in a way, as to features (mechanical and interior) are desirable or not.
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01-22-2019, 10:48 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,481
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Bru
Eh, maybe? I could see how members here sorta feel exploited by the hit-and-run ads. On the other hand, it doesn't seem like those ads get much traction anyway and they almost serve as a Public Service Announcement or reality check on the realities of bus conversion. It's almost like people learn what not to pony up for when they read the replies to some of these ads.
Both bad and good aspects of the offerings are commented on and it helps educate people, in a way, as to features (mechanical and interior) are desirable or not.
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I agree with this also. If it bothers you, ignore it and move on, it's the internet and we have no (little) control.
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01-22-2019, 11:57 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Washington State
Posts: 811
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Just a note here that we are working on a new classifieds page and system. It should be ready for prime time in the next month or two and offer some additional safeguards as well as improved search tools.
There are more and more classifieds being posted (skoolies are cool) and we need better ways to manage and display them.
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You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose | Dr. Seuss
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01-22-2019, 12:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,400
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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My biggest frustration is the "hit and run" posters who post incomplete ads and never return to answer questions.
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01-22-2019, 12:10 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Greenwood, Indiana
Posts: 669
Year: 1999
Coachwork: New Flyer
Chassis: D45HF "Viking"
Engine: 11.1L Detroit Diesel S60
Rated Cap: 51,600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
My biggest frustration is the "hit and run" posters who post incomplete ads and never return to answer questions.
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I second that. If "you" are really wanting to sell, enough to go post it somewhere other than CraigsList, why the heck do "you" not stick around to answer questions?
Just doesn't make sense to me.
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01-22-2019, 01:34 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 17,676
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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would be neat to have a real searchable classified system where you use a CMS type form to fill it out.. required fields such as price, year, make, model, engine type, trans type, and contact methods.. as well as perhaps requiring pictures to place a classified..
this is the day and age when EVERYONE on here is using a computer or phone and likely has some type of camera available to them...
heck we had a member a few years ago who carried his laptop onto his bus to post progress shots of his conversion because he didnt have a smart phone...
I have no issue with 1 post classifieds.. after all if they are logging onto here to sell their bus, chances are they arent interested in posting more times and becoming a member of the community.. they are selling and moving on..
maybe a 1 post wonder should be required to post an email address, or other means of contact outside the board for potential buyer to reach them?
-Christopher
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01-22-2019, 09:17 PM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,200
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Look at it this way: Don't go there if you expect to be offended or if you do go there treat it like a carnival booth--ya pays ya money an ya takes ya chances--no big deal.
Jack
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01-23-2019, 06:20 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Washington State
Posts: 811
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
would be neat to have a real searchable classified system where you use a CMS type form to fill it out.. required fields such as price, year, make, model, engine type, trans type, and contact methods.. as well as perhaps requiring pictures to place a classified..
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It's coming... we're still working on the 1s and 0s but it's coming along nicely.
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You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose | Dr. Seuss
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01-23-2019, 06:31 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,481
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Just had a new sale post from a poster with 2 posts. 5 sounds like a good number.
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01-25-2019, 05:36 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Campbell, Tx
Posts: 204
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: IC
Engine: T444e, 7.3
Rated Cap: 12
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If you set a minimum amount of posts for newcomers to be able to post in the classifieds, be prepared for them to make their 5 posts in the form of one and two word responses with no substance, on all of ya'lls build threads.
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01-25-2019, 09:02 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Limit of one per day to count. Most of the dorks who want to hawk their junk aren't that patient.
I'd be fine with a 30 day wait. Or a separate area where anyone (non-members) can post anything for sale...for a fee. And have another for "members only" (signed up and 30 days worth of posts).
This is a discussion forum...not the want ads. Take that crap to Crags' List.
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01-25-2019, 09:11 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,689
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Limit of one per day to count. Most of the dorks who want to hawk their junk aren't that patient.
I'd be fine with a 30 day wait. Or a separate area where anyone (non-members) can post anything for sale...for a fee. And have another for "members only" (signed up and 30 days worth of posts).
This is a discussion forum...not the want ads. Take that crap to Crags' List.
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Yes! THIS^^^
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01-25-2019, 10:41 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,400
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
would be neat to have a real searchable classified system where you use a CMS type form to fill it out.. required fields such as price, year, make, model, engine type, trans type, and contact methods.. as well as perhaps requiring pictures to place a classified..
-Christopher
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I wonder if the forum software will support that function?
I think that's a great idea.
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01-25-2019, 10:56 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,270
Year: 1984
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 1753
Engine: 6.9 International
Rated Cap: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Limit of one per day to count. Most of the dorks who want to hawk their junk aren't that patient.
I'd be fine with a 30 day wait. Or a separate area where anyone (non-members) can post anything for sale...for a fee. And have another for "members only" (signed up and 30 days worth of posts).
This is a discussion forum...not the want ads. Take that crap to Crags' List.
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That's the ticket in my books. They can either wait the 30 days, or pay 5 bucks to post in the classifieds. I don't like the post limit imposed because, like previously said, they'll just post garbage to get there, drop their ad, and then leave.
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01-25-2019, 11:25 AM
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#17
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,481
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by consti2tion
If you set a minimum amount of posts for newcomers to be able to post in the classifieds, be prepared for them to make their 5 posts in the form of one and two word responses with no substance, on all of ya'lls build threads.
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On my other sites there is wording in the rules that forbid fluff posting for post count requirement. Mods can still keep you from posting after your post limit if they feel that's what you're doing. At least if they come here and read 5 threads, it might interest them into participating.
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01-25-2019, 11:32 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 17,676
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I wonder if the forum software will support that function?
I think that's a great idea.
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the forium software is customizable, but like anything it takes work to do it.. and this particular forum software can be a real PITA to make changes to and not cause grief for some of the users..
in a way its almost too customizable as it takes some skill to get new things in it and simple to use for the users but efective..
part of the problem with for sale in any forum is the follow-up... even from veteran members.. someone posts a bus for sale and it sells.. they never come back to update that its sold.. other members see it 6 months later and responds.. then more respond because the thread is bumped..
the OP doesnt come back.. because well unless that OP is going to build a new bus,
they are likely no longer interested in Busses or have moved on and no reason to visit the forum any longer...
I havent been back to the Jeep forum once I sold my last Jeep...
-Christopher
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01-25-2019, 11:44 AM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,481
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Just had another 1 poster run an ad with little info or contact info. I'll at least give this one credit as he did fill out his profile before posting. I think there should be a simple list for posting a bus for sale and it must include contact info, asking price, model engine and tranny (not just Allison), mileage, etc.
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