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05-02-2017, 12:16 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 29
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All set to buy!
I have finally found a shorter blue bird flat nose bus and I started it up today.
Poor picture I know but it's an 8 window, 48 passenger 2001 blue bird.
5.9 24v Cummings
I plan on gutting the bus and using it as a camper.
Any last advice? Tomorrow morning I am going to do the final test drive. The gas pedal was a little sticky and also the service engine soon light is on the dash.
I'll have to drive it about 200mi home, crossing my fingers.
Thanks
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05-02-2017, 01:00 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kalcypher
I have finally found a shorter blue bird flat nose bus and I started it up today.
Attachment 13511
Poor picture I know but it's an 8 window, 48 passenger 2001 blue bird.
5.9 24v Cummings
I plan on gutting the bus and using it as a camper.
Any last advice? Tomorrow morning I am going to do the final test drive. The gas pedal was a little sticky and also the service engine soon light is on the dash.
I'll have to drive it about 200mi home, crossing my fingers.
Thanks
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If the battery was dead, it will throw the service engine light.
Good luck and safe travels!
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05-02-2017, 10:15 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Congrats
That bus looks kind of familiar.
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05-02-2017, 11:55 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Foot of the siskiyou mountains Oregon.
Posts: 222
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas / international
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt 360/ spicer 5 speed
Rated Cap: 42
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Does the "code 53" block affect skoolies? I love the cummins 5.9 but have read all about the tuppy block.had one in a truck once...never had any problems with it though.
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05-02-2017, 12:36 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SolomonEagle
Does the "code 53" block affect skoolies? I love the cummins 5.9 but have read all about the tuppy block.had one in a truck once...never had any problems with it though.
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I would imagine it could. I hadn't heard it was a Dodge only thing. most of the Skoolie Cummins had a different front cover to allow for an extra gear in the timing case for the air compressor, but I don't think that would make a difference. All the blocks are the same I think. On a side note, they kept producing motors with the Bosch vp44 injection pump in med duty 5.9 engines for up to 5 years after Dodge went to common rail injection.
And the research I have done has the medium duty applications having different hp and torque ratings than the Dodge of the same years (usually higher)
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05-02-2017, 02:39 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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I have a 1998 Tc2000 and My throttle cable was also a little sticky. You will probably have to replace it to solve the problem. Its a little tricky but doable. As the mechanism under the gas pedal is more complicated than you would expect, and you have to bend yourself into a pretzel to reach everything. I managed it though.
Bill
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05-03-2017, 08:25 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kalcypher
Well the bus is mine, we are on the road now.
Had to stop once bc I lost power, the battery was fried, swollen smoking and leaking. Road crew installed a new one and we were on our way, now it seems this one is about to blow.
Please help. I have to drive about 2 more hours home and the voltage + amperage meters are both way too high while driving.
Could be a voltage regulator issue? Any tips?
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05-03-2017, 08:26 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 29
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Well the bus is mine, we are on the road now.
Had to stop once bc I lost power, the battery was fried, swollen smoking and leaking. Road crew installed a new one and we were on our way, now it seems this one is about to blow.
Please help. I have to drive about 2 more hours home and the voltage + amperage meters are both way too high while driving.
Could be a voltage regulator issue?
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05-03-2017, 08:32 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kalcypher
Well the bus is mine, we are on the road now.
Had to stop once bc I lost power, the battery was fried, swollen smoking and leaking. Road crew installed a new one and we were on our way, now it seems this one is about to blow.
Please help. I have to drive about 2 more hours home and the voltage + amperage meters are both way too high while driving.
Could be a voltage regulator issue?
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It seems it is overcharging. Be careful, it could very well blow.
I think a regulator issue is a good assumption.
Where are you? Never know a skoolie could be near by to render assistance.
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05-03-2017, 08:33 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 29
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Right outside Bethlehem PA on 78. Any ideas for how to keep moving home?
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05-03-2017, 08:43 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kalcypher
Right outside Bethlehem PA on 78. Any ideas for how to keep moving home?
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I have never dealt with that issue. I am unsure.
I am googling right now
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05-03-2017, 08:45 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kalcypher
Right outside Bethlehem PA on 78. Any ideas for how to keep moving home?
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It may be possible to disconnect the alternator and continue on battery power to a safe exit, if it isn't already fried. It is probably the voltage regulator.
That's what I could glean quickly
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05-03-2017, 08:47 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
It may be possible to disconnect the alternator and continue on battery power to a safe exit, if it isn't already fried. It is probably the voltage regulator.
That's what I could glean quickly
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My engineering friend and I are considering just that.
Thanks for searching. I'll let you know how it goes.
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05-03-2017, 08:47 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Also, if you are charging at higher than 14.8v then something is absolutely wrong
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05-03-2017, 08:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,889
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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you can help to drop the voltage a bit by turning on every switch in the bus... the A/C, the heater fans, the lights, mirror heat, often when an alrternator heats up its voltage level will drop.. i would defimnitely be checking the voltage to see what output you are getting.
-Christopher
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05-03-2017, 09:06 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
you can help to drop the voltage a bit by turning on every switch in the bus... the A/C, the heater fans, the lights, mirror heat, often when an alrternator heats up its voltage level will drop.. i would defimnitely be checking the voltage to see what output you are getting.
-Christopher
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Going to try that now, the volt meter on the dash reads 12 when the bus is off and the key is on.
Shoots up to 16/18v when I start the engine
Any other ideas?
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05-03-2017, 09:09 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kalcypher
Going to try that now, the volt meter on the dash reads 12 when the bus is off and the key is on.
Shoots up to 16/18v when I start the engine
Any other ideas?
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It is definitely overcharging!
I am pretty sure the charge controller is in the alternator, so a new alternator will need to be put in.
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05-04-2017, 12:55 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American
Engine: Cummins 8.3/Allison MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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I just posted in your other thread and then saw this one. Before I realized both threads were yours I was like "wow, what're the chances??" Haha
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05-04-2017, 12:56 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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How are you making out?
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05-04-2017, 01:02 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 29
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100 miles closer! Alternator unplugged works like a charm.
Reconnecting now at a truck stop to charge a little before the last 75 miles
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