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11-07-2019, 05:09 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Anybody have any scrap International bumper rail?
I just need a couple of pieces 2' long or so, with one end rounded (like the sections that are "broken" by the wheel wells, which is what this is actually for). Or if anybody knows where I can get some online. I found one place that has 8' sections for like $130 or something like that
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11-09-2019, 04:28 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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I wish you luck in finding the rails. I have some from a Thomas ... but I learned a long time ago to not get rid of stuff from the demo until I am CERTAIN I will not need them. If you can determine our rails are interchangeable, then maybe ....
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11-13-2019, 01:44 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 578
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126
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I can get you a chrome front bumper in decent condition (does have one small dent) from a Durastar, probably not what you need tho.
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11-16-2019, 10:31 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 80
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Carpenter (Cavalier)
Chassis: International Harvester
Engine: DTA360
Rated Cap: 63
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Rub rails? In our conversion we removed 2 of the 3 rails. They are just sitting and I have no use, but not sure how to reasonably get them to PA.
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11-16-2019, 12:17 PM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipoffools
Rub rails? In our conversion we removed 2 of the 3 rails. They are just sitting and I have no use, but not sure how to reasonably get them to PA.
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Oh wow, cool. I assume the 1989 bumper rail has the same cross-section as the 2003 Internationals? I can include a pic of mine (although my build thread has a bunch).
If you could cut the rails into, say, three-foot long sections and stack them in a box and mail them, I'd be happy to send you money for the shipping costs (plus whatever they're worth, or I could send you back something out of my collection of useless extra stuff). I don't need any full-length pieces, just shorter bits to replace a few dented-in pieces around one of my wheel wells.
I will go measure my bus this afternoon and see exactly what lengths I need and how many.
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11-16-2019, 12:18 PM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipoffools
Rub rails? In our conversion we removed 2 of the 3 rails. They are just sitting and I have no use, but not sure how to reasonably get them to PA.
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Love your avatar, BTW.
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11-16-2019, 12:42 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 80
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Carpenter (Cavalier)
Chassis: International Harvester
Engine: DTA360
Rated Cap: 63
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Cool just shoot me some pics with measurement and I would be happy to help out.
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11-17-2019, 09:06 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipoffools
Cool just shoot me some pics with measurement and I would be happy to help out.
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Here are the two pieces I need to replace (it's weird, I had the impression I'd need to replace more but these are the only ones actually damaged - and actually even the first one is probably salvageable as is):
So I need one 3-foot piece and one 2-foot piece, each with the beveled/rounded end by the wheel wells (if possible).
Thanks very much! I'll PM you my address and we can set up how I'll pay you for this.
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11-17-2019, 10:39 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 80
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Carpenter (Cavalier)
Chassis: International Harvester
Engine: DTA360
Rated Cap: 63
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The rub rails I have are vastly different. They are 2 round humps, those look more square. Sorry, I can post picks in a couple hours.
That bus of yours sure has a lot of rust. What’s your plan for remediation the floor?
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11-17-2019, 01:04 PM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipoffools
The rub rails I have are vastly different. They are 2 round humps, those look more square. Sorry, I can post picks in a couple hours.
That bus of yours sure has a lot of rust. What’s your plan for remediation the floor?
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Oh well, too bad. Thanks for offering.
Well, I'm rebuilding a large chunk of the floor around the wheel wells, so at least no remediation of that part is necessary (unless you count reconstruction as remediation). For the rest it's just weld patches where necessary and ospho and paint. The second-worst rust area in my bus was the rear and that's been fixed; once the floor is rebuilt the worst will be over. The weather is killing me now, though - it's not too cold to work but it's too cold to paint anything, and I need to pre-paint a lot of the new floor structure before welding it in. I'm actually looking around for some kind of heated inside work space that I can rent and paint things in.
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11-17-2019, 01:06 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipoffools
The rub rails I have are vastly different.
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Ah, I see your coachwork is Carpenter and not International. I didn't read your details properly, of course your rub rails are different.
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11-17-2019, 01:07 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I have a bunch of rub rail end caps that can be welded onto straight sections if you need them. Post a pic later to see if they are correct profile.
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11-17-2019, 01:10 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
I have a bunch of rub rail end caps that can be welded onto straight sections if you need them. Post a pic later to see if they are correct profile.
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Thanks, I posted a couple of pics of the damaged sections earlier in this thread. The one that is the biggest problem is actually smashed up about three feet back from the end.
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11-17-2019, 02:34 PM
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#14
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Here's what I have if anyone can use them.
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12-16-2019, 07:52 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 153
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466e/Allison 2000
Rated Cap: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Here's what I have if anyone can use them. 
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I see 5. you wouldn't happen to have 6 would you?
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12-16-2019, 08:06 PM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdrobbins77
I see 5. you wouldn't happen to have 6 would you?
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Don't think so, still looking for the last custom end piece I made for the window.
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03-07-2020, 08:35 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,033
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Shoutout to @DrDanger for sending me a nice piece of scrap bumper rail from his bus. I have everything I need now for the repair.
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03-07-2020, 11:05 PM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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That is so cool!
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