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03-19-2017, 12:28 AM
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Skoolie
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Bathroom Question
Has anyone ever put on a residential toilet in an conversion?
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03-19-2017, 12:49 AM
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Bus Crazy
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Originally Posted by IWC Bus
Has anyone ever put on a residential toilet in an conversion?
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Uses a lot of water, but in my research I have seen a couple. Not ideal for boondocking
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03-19-2017, 06:10 AM
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Bus Nut
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more poop soup to deal with, who would want that. crap in a bucket and thro it in the trash.
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03-19-2017, 09:28 AM
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Skoolie
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Originally Posted by superdave
more poop soup to deal with, who would want that. crap in a bucket and thro it in the trash.
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LOL not ideal and my wife is not going to deal with that.[emoji51]
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03-19-2017, 10:13 AM
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Bus Crazy
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its been done, but like the other say, why?
a low flow flush toilet is 1.6 gallons / flush
a fancy rv electronic toilet is .8 gpf with a flush cycle.
the foot pedal toilets are even less.
water and waste tank size have to be twice or 4 times bigger with a home toilet than a rv model for the same number of days of use.
some of the RV toilets are quite nice, porcelain, macerating, even with bidets
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03-19-2017, 10:16 AM
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Skoolie
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For me it the height of the toilet. My wife I am not so much concern with as long as it not a bucket with a seat. 😜
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03-19-2017, 10:20 AM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IWC Bus
For me it the height of the toilet. My wife I am not so much concern with as long as it not a bucket with a seat. 😜
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If you are planning on full hook-ups all the time and have a decent sized black water tank, it will work. You will just have to empty it more often.
Maybe adopt "if it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down" edict. 😂
I have seen some taller RV toilets too. They are a bit more expensive, but they are out there.
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03-19-2017, 10:23 AM
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Bus Geek
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if you go residential, be sure to get a pressure-tank flush type toilet or as you drive you will continuously have the float go up and down, losing a bunch of water into the drain tube. a pressure flush tank type toilet shouldnt have this issue...
-Christopher
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03-19-2017, 10:28 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
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you can always build a platform to set rv toilet on at whatever height you want
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03-19-2017, 10:28 AM
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Skoolie
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Thank You Christopher
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03-19-2017, 10:39 AM
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Bus Geek
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the other thing I wonder.. abd mnaybe a plumber can chime in, is will a tank directly below a toilet create enough syphon action to get a good flush wit ha resi..
I know in a house you have a fairly decent slope and run to a toilet pipe to help create the syphon.. perhaps its all internal to the toilet and having such a short run doesnt matter?
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03-19-2017, 10:42 AM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
if you go residential, be sure to get a pressure-tank flush type toilet or as you drive you will continuously have the float go up and down, losing a bunch of water into the drain tube. a pressure flush tank type toilet shouldnt have this issue...
-Christopher
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Dude, you are always 2 steps ahead!
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03-19-2017, 01:31 PM
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Bus Nut
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What the toilet needs to work is already built into it. You can set a toilet on top of some bricks/blocks without the tank and it will hold its normal water level. Now dump a bucket of water in it and it will flush itself and return to its standard level in the bowl.
I have a residential toilet in mine more because it was a salvage.
There are ways to use it responsibly as far as water usage and there are extra steps to take before hitting the road.
To decrease water usage as far as tank capacity you can put milk jugs,water bottles,bricks or such in the tank to take away from the volume the tank holds.
Regardless before you hit the road you need to turn off the water supply and flush to drain the tank and bowl so they don't slosh out while on the road and if needed while on the road keep a jug of water to flush if necessary and you can use the kitty litter method,saw dust stuff sparingly to cover while on the road and flush it down when you get hooked up.
The pressurized tank style toilets are very picky about the proper water supply pressure and pretty much can't be worked on except for the water strainer (that is very fine) in them but you have to have the right tool to get to it or know exactly where to pry/hammer/drive or your replacing it anyway.
Regardless of residential or RV style toilet or any fixture the piping should be the most direct route with elbows to a minimum and 45-s when you have room are better if you can stretch them out a little bit. A toilet is better dropping directly into the top of a tank with no turns and if you need it to turn before the tank make sure to use long radius drain fittings and not short radius/turn pressure fittings.
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03-19-2017, 05:27 PM
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Bus Crazy
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when you have a family a bathroom is important, some people just don't want to carp in a bucket, or have a litter box. Happy wife, happy life, I have a porcelain rv toilet, nice height, full size bathroom sink, its nice, wife happy, me happy, I have 40 gal black tank and has been fine, and finding places to dump hasn't been a problem. A bucket and a seat work great, but there's no point in having it, if no one want's to use it, or spend anytime in the bus because of it.
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03-19-2017, 05:54 PM
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Bus Geek
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Based on my perpensity to knock over buckets, I'd have to agree that a bucket is not acceptable.
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03-19-2017, 06:44 PM
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Skoolie
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03-19-2017, 06:46 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deftone
Wait.......I thought we were all sold on composting toilets now???? Now I need to start considering RV toilets again?
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I am not sold on composting toilets... Flush it away! Lol
I don't like picking up after the dog and I use a scooper for that!
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03-19-2017, 06:55 PM
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Skoolie
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Deftone ....
I was never sold on composting toilets! 😳 It was more for the handling over people waste matter. Secondly because I am 6'4.5" with long legs. Third my Large girth (My fluffiness). Fourth my disability with my legs (shaky walking) and finally MY WIFE.
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03-19-2017, 07:03 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Based on my perpensity to knock over buckets, I'd have to agree that a bucket is not acceptable.
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yikes! never thought of knocking it over!
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03-19-2017, 07:09 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Originally Posted by deftone
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nothing wrong with composting toilets, plenty of people on here use them and seem to have success with them. I know some people that haven't had good luck. its personal preference , some people just fined it much easer to install them, and don't want the hassle of dumping .
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