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06-14-2018, 07:35 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 7
Year: 1982
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: International
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Battery Question
Hi!
We are looking at a 2000 Thomas 5.9L Cummings, with an Allison Transmission.
It has been parked for a while and they said it needs a new battery but couldn't tell me what kind. Can you all point me in the right direction? I found an Odyssey Extreme Battery but they offer 5 different shapes/sizes and they all say universal?!? Thanks in advance.
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06-14-2018, 07:54 PM
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#2
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Hope you aren't the one bidding against me for the bus in South Carolina.
I picked up two batteries for about 325 to put in a 2000 thomas I'm trying to find a picture so you can have the brand and size
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06-14-2018, 07:57 PM
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#3
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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I took this pic of the old ones and went to the auto store they got me the right ones
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06-14-2018, 08:03 PM
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#4
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 7
Year: 1982
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: International
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Thank you very much! $325 sounds like a great deal. I'll check them out.
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06-14-2018, 10:10 PM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I knew I would eventually need them so I picked up 2 of these 31-5T batteries. My bus has a single good battery that I will swap out for these.
$125ea/$20 core charge I was right at $290 + for 2 of them. More power than an Interstate, less money.
https://www.oreillyauto.com/search?q=31-5t+battery
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06-15-2018, 05:24 AM
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#6
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I paid $190 out the door for two brand new batteries at Rural King.
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06-15-2018, 08:22 AM
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#7
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Almost There
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: South Cacalackey
Posts: 69
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 72
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i used a 10w solar panel and refrbished my batteries.
charger said bad cells. i said "no you stupid charger, you just dont know what the **** you are doing"
topped off with distilled water, and out emnin a sunny spot.
put back on charger a few months later, charger now says "a okay"
ie; i used a "desulfator" even though the panel doesnt quite work like that.
none the less, these tiny panels are great at bringing batteries "back from the dead" if you have the time and 30 bucks.
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06-15-2018, 02:24 PM
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#8
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin N.E.
Posts: 412
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
I knew I would eventually need them so I picked up 2 of these 31-5T batteries. My bus has a single good battery that I will swap out for these.
$125ea/$20 core charge I was right at $290 + for 2 of them. More power than an Interstate, less money.
https://www.oreillyauto.com/search?q=31-5t+battery
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That's exactly what I got from the same place but mine were 325ish in South Carolina
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06-15-2018, 08:46 PM
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#9
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 7
Year: 1982
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: International
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
I knew I would eventually need them so I picked up 2 of these 31-5T batteries. My bus has a single good battery that I will swap out for these.
$125ea/$20 core charge I was right at $290 + for 2 of them. More power than an Interstate, less money.
https://www.oreillyauto.com/search?q=31-5t+battery
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Thank you 01marc , thats a sweet deal too.
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06-15-2018, 08:49 PM
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#10
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 7
Year: 1982
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: International
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nachowarrior
i used a 10w solar panel and refrbished my batteries.
charger said bad cells. i said "no you stupid charger, you just dont know what the **** you are doing"
topped off with distilled water, and out emnin a sunny spot.
put back on charger a few months later, charger now says "a okay"
ie; i used a "desulfator" even though the panel doesnt quite work like that.
none the less, these tiny panels are great at bringing batteries "back from the dead" if you have the time and 30 bucks.
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Impressive, most impressive!
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06-25-2018, 10:39 AM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladibug00
Thank you very much! $325 sounds like a great deal. I'll check them out.
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Sounds like a terrible deal to me. See ECCB's comment. I bought two of these.
https://www.batteriesplus.com/productdetails/sli8da
Which is the equivalent of 3 of his batteries (1400CCA each). The 5.9L probably dosen't need near 2800 CCA but then I went months with not starting the bus and it fired right up.
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06-25-2018, 10:56 AM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Sounds like a terrible deal to me. See ECCB's comment. I bought two of these.
https://www.batteriesplus.com/productdetails/sli8da
Which is the equivalent of 3 of his batteries (1400CCA each). The 5.9L probably dosen't need near 2800 CCA but then I went months with not starting the bus and it fired right up.
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3 of my battery is around 2700 CCA.
But I only need one G31 battery to start any bus I've owned. I run 2.
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06-25-2018, 11:34 AM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
3 of my battery is around 2700 CCA.
But I only need one G31 battery to start any bus I've owned. I run 2.
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  Yup, I know; was just pointing it out for the O.P. I'd have gone the same route as you 'cept my bus came with the 8Ds so I stayed with it. Group 31 batteries will do just fine especially for a 5.9L. Price wise 2 of those is MUCH cheaper than 2 of the 8D batteries but that's not comparing apples to apples. It takes three of the Group 31s to equal two of the 8Ds. That's still cheaper using the Rural King price but is about the same elsewhere.
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07-01-2018, 09:54 AM
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#14
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladibug00
Hi!
We are looking at a 2000 Thomas 5.9L Cummings, with an Allison Transmission.
It has been parked for a while and they said it needs a new battery but couldn't tell me what kind. Can you all point me in the right direction? I found an Odyssey Extreme Battery but they offer 5 different shapes/sizes and they all say universal?!? Thanks in advance. 
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The battery size is usually group 31. It usually requires 3 of those batteries To start these diesel engines in very cold weather . The batteries would be wired in parallel .the exception would be if you used a Maxwell Capacitor start battery Then a single battery would started but you still required to have the standard batteries For the computer and ignition system And house batteries .
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07-01-2018, 02:59 PM
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#15
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 60
Year: 2005
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Frieghtliner - 40ft overall
Engine: 210hp Mercedes Benz Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 person (originally)
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after you get your battery invest is a solar powered, roof mounted panel that provides a trickle charge to the batteries when it’s sitting.
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